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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Is Leake very sharp or are the Astros terrible. Maybe both?

    It's really great to see Leake pitch well these last few outings. It would have been a shame if he slid back with a second half slump.

    Big surprise for the Reds this year, great progress by Leake.
    He looked very rough early, but once he started throwing from the stretch...his control improved by leaps and bounds. Sometimes that's all it takes.

    And yes, the Astros are terrible.
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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by LeDoux View Post
    In spite of the results, the Cowboy seemed concerned about what he saw from Marshall.
    I was impressed with his slider and his fastball. But his bread and butter pitch, the curveball was all over the place. He looked comfortable on the mound, but it seemed he couldn't find his release point of the Uncle Charley.

    I was hoping he'd get some time tonight. I'm also hoping that Billy gets a start tomorrow. Might be a good game to give a breather to a starter or two. Votto, Choo, Bruce, Phillips...they could all use a day off (especially with a day off thursday). Obviously not ALL of them in one game...but 2...yeah.
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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by osuredleg24 View Post
    LOL. I couldn't see that play...blocked by Brandon. Too damned funny. Also never saw the replay of the play at the plate with Phillips. They don't show replays in the juice box if they're slightly controversial.
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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    1. Over the 3 plus seasons since they've been drafted, Leake has been a lot more valuable to the Reds than Stasberg has to the Nats.

    2. As far as trading one for the other, lets have this conversation a few years down the road. I suspect Leake will be still winning games and Stasburg will be having yet another operation.
    #1 is largely true. Leake has pitched much more and reasonably well, especially this year/lately.

    #2 is my point and where we diverge. I'd love it if you were right but my rational part would never take that bet. Hence why I'd make the trade in a second. But guessing you wouldn't.

    BTW, there's absolutely no way the Nationals would make such a trade. I'd guess you'd be pretty hard-pressed to find a knowledgeable analyst/journalist who'd agree with you here. But, you are right that it's all about the future and what one expects to happen so uncertain.
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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Just got home. Well....THAT was fun. :O) SMACK DOWN IN H-TOWN! *grin*

    Nearly caught a foul ball tonight. Down the 3rd base line but I backed off the last second because Frazier had a play on it. Me and a guy in a dodger jersey ended up trying to keep Todd out of the stands. :O) Oh well, no foul ball for this old fart.

    So, 2 for 2....how am I doin' fellas?
    Pretty good. You need to hand me that baton Thursday so I can take it to PIttsburgh with me this weekend.

    And, on your foul ball that wasn't, today was at the first Nats/Braves game in DC. You know those t-shirts they throw and blast from special bazooka-type contraptions? I got two of them. What are the odds of that?
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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by 1940757690 View Post
    I'd guess you'd be pretty hard-pressed to find a knowledgeable analyst/journalist who'd agree with you here.
    You mean all those knowledgeable analyst/journalists who predicted the Nats would be playing the Angels in the World series?

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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by osuredleg24 View Post
    That play certainly gives a whole new meaning to the name Astros!

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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Reds Win!!!!!!!!

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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Reds Win!!!!!!!!
    Is that Charles?
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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    You mean all those knowledgeable analyst/journalists who predicted the Nats would be playing the Angels in the World series?
    Seems like a kind of irrelevant question with other agenda. But, putting that aside, answer this: Would you refuse a trade of Leake for Strasburg straight up?
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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by Larkin Fan View Post
    That play certainly gives a whole new meaning to the name Astros!
    Where I thought they couldn't top the botched bunt play to quickly summarize the Astros suckitude of the current era, this here is a perfect video metaphor of this historically bad time for the franchise.
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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by 1940757690 View Post
    Seems like a kind of irrelevant question with other agenda. But, putting that aside, answer this: Would you refuse a trade of Leake for Strasburg straight up?
    Lets put it this way, before even considering such a trade I'd want Strasberg to be checked out by the Mayo Clinic and then I'd want a second opinion from Mt Sinai. And assuming He got a clean bill (which I doubt he would get), I'd have to really think about it.

    The real question is, going back 3 years, putting aside all the hype, and putting aside the bias in favor of a guy who throws in the high 90s as opposed to a real pitcher, and knowing what they've produced from 2010-2013, do you draft Strasberg or Leake? Particularly in light of the fact that Strasberg cost 7 mill and Leake 2 mill.

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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    Lets put it this way, before even considering such a trade I'd want Strasberg to be checked out by the Mayo Clinic and then I'd want a second opinion from Mt Sinai. And assuming He got a clean bill (which I doubt he would get), I'd have to really think about it.

    The real question is, going back 3 years, putting aside all the hype, and putting aside the bias in favor of a guy who throws in the high 90s as opposed to a real pitcher, and knowing what they've produced from 2010-2013, do you draft Strasberg or Leake? Particularly in light of the fact that Strasberg cost 7 mill and Leake 2 mill.


    If i'm pretending I can redo that draft, I'm picking Trout. Anything else is just a tease.

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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    Is that Charles?

    Very, very, VERY much NOT me. Good lord.
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    Re: 9/17/13 - Reds at Sir Charlestros

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    Is that Charles?
    I was just hoping that he hadn't eaten Charles.
    Zero chance the Reds miss the playoffs!

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