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Thread: This may have seemed crazy to think about a few weeks ago but...

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    Re: This may have seemed crazy to think about a few weeks ago but...

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    You sure bout that?
    "Can't bat 2 lefties in a row, dude. It's in the book."
    "And why do false truths persist, getting passed down the decades as if they were fact? It comes back to the same point: People believe things that are wrong because, individually, people rarely investigate their own beliefs, particularly when what they believe makes sense intuitively. Even more so when those around them agree with them." -K.F.

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    Re: This may have seemed crazy to think about a few weeks ago but...

    Quote Originally Posted by RedlegJake View Post
    Bat him 8th (or never happen with Dusty but 9th and the pitcher 8th) and let him acclimate.
    "Pitchers bat 9th dude, it's in the book."
    "And why do false truths persist, getting passed down the decades as if they were fact? It comes back to the same point: People believe things that are wrong because, individually, people rarely investigate their own beliefs, particularly when what they believe makes sense intuitively. Even more so when those around them agree with them." -K.F.

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    Re: This may have seemed crazy to think about a few weeks ago but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    "Can't bat 2 lefties in a row, dude. It's in the book."
    Lineup from 25 Sept

    CF: Billy Hamilton
    LF: Shin-Soo Choo
    1B: Joey Votto
    2B: Brandon Phillips
    RF: Jay Bruce
    3B: Todd Frazier
    C: Devin Mesoraco
    SS: Cesar Izturis
    SP: Mat Latos

    This certainly surprised a few Dusty nay-sayers. I would have said that this was the way to order the lineup; sometimes Dusty agrees.
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    Re: This may have seemed crazy to think about a few weeks ago but...

    You can hit Hamilton and Choo back to back because billy is a switch hitter.

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    Re: This may have seemed crazy to think about a few weeks ago but...

    Right, but that also puts Choo in the 2 spot immediately ahead of Votto. So you're still batting two lefties in a row (regardless of Hamilton's ability to switch).

    I like this lineup, though, because Hamilton is before Choo; it's not beneficial to put the speed of Hamilton behind Choo. Plus, Hamilton, Choo, and Votto on base with no outs dramatically improves our odds of scoring a run.
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    Re: This may have seemed crazy to think about a few weeks ago but...

    If you want to take full advantage of Hamilton's speed on the bases, wouldn't it be more of a wise move to put Votto behind Hamilton and Choo third? Votto takes more pitches and will give Hamilton a better chance to steal and get in scoring position.

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    Re: This may have seemed crazy to think about a few weeks ago but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewdog View Post
    If you want to take full advantage of Hamilton's speed on the bases, wouldn't it be more of a wise move to put Votto behind Hamilton and Choo third? Votto takes more pitches and will give Hamilton a better chance to steal and get in scoring position.
    Good point. Plus, Choo might actually make contact to bring Hamilton in. Votto's an on base machine, but sometimes you just want to see him hit the dang ball.
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    Re: This may have seemed crazy to think about a few weeks ago but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Beer&Bourbon View Post
    Good point. Plus, Choo might actually make contact to bring Hamilton in. Votto's an on base machine, but sometimes you just want to see him hit the dang ball.
    I have to actually eat my words. I looked it up, and Choo takes 4.22 pitches per plate appearance compared to Votto's 4.18.

    Choo leads the team among regular players. The list of players that have batted second this year didn't fair so well, and Brandon Phillips is also far down the list with 3.64 pitches per plate appearance.


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