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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Told you. Guy allowed 8 hits to 12 batters and now we are engaged in debate whether he had it tonight.

    He didn't.

    Let's go Reds, four runs is nothing for a championship team.

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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Call me an optimist but I think the bullpen can keep the Mets in check. They're not very good, Leake was just throwing batting practice.
    Is Duke part of what you're calling our capable pen? 'Cus I agree with your pen optimism generally but think Duke should have been relegated to Louisville after the last outing.
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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    No big deal here. Leake lives on a fine edge. When he doesn't hit spots and keep the ball down he has a bad night. When he hits the corners and paints the lower parts of the zone he's tough. Night and day. He can't power his way out of a rough night. Good guy for a long season, not a guy I want starting a playoff game, though.

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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
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    I don't think Leake ever had a chance in the world of being in the rotation unless someone got hurt.
    Once Cueto proved himself healthy, that writing was on the wall. He'll still likely make the team as the long guy. Ondrusek won't.

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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Quote Originally Posted by New York Red View Post
    At no point in these two innings was Leake "doing fine".
    Yeah you're right, getting a broken bat blooper against the Mets' best hitter, a weak groundball with one out and a nasty strikeout against D'Arnaud was evidence he was sucking.
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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Christiani in the pen.

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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Quote Originally Posted by RedlegJake View Post
    No big deal here. Leake lives on a fine edge. When he doesn't hit spots and keep the ball down he has a bad night. When he hits the corners and paints the lower parts of the zone he's tough. Night and day. He can't power his way out of a rough night. Good guy for a long season, not a guy I want starting a playoff game, though.
    Stop being reasonable damnit!
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Leake's game is very contact oriented and he gives up hits, so the first few were no big deal, certainly something he could recover from. The smoked double by EY and the HR by Murphy, not so much.
    So you go from saying Leake sucks tonight, to this?
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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Frazier leadoff double.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Feel bad for Leake. Probably just pitched himself out of the playoff rotation.
    Then he'll be 3 for 3 then... I feel really awful for him. Some will say he deserves it...
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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Frazier doubles to lead off the second.

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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Once Cueto proved himself healthy, that writing was on the wall. He'll still likely make the team as the long guy. Ondrusek won't.
    I'd rather have Ondrusek, actually, especially since his splitter has been very good his last two appearances.

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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Christiani in the pen.
    Whew! The thought of Duke coming out for the 2nd would have me really questioning things more than I normally do.

    And, that's just the most recent example why Hannahan should almost never be started over Frazier at 3rd.
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    Re: 9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

    Quote Originally Posted by New York Red View Post
    So you go from saying Leake sucks tonight, to this?
    Yup, pretty linear progression. I said he kinda sucks when he gave up that double, but before that HR it had the making of a pretty typical Leake game. Give up early runs (which kinda sucks), everyone calls for his head, and then he pitches 5-6 innings of shutout ball. Unfortunately the HR put an end to that.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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