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    If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/...ref_map=%5B%5D

    Thinks 5yr/$100MM is "not in the ballpark" and that Choo will get more.

    "The value of a lead-off hitter who has a .420 on-base percentage, 20-stolen base speed, 20-home run power, the ability to score 100 runs, and who has the ability to play center field and is a Gold Glove type defender in right field is immense," Boras said. "We don't see these types of players in the free-agent market. I only want to talk about our clients, and the last one we had anywhere near this was Jayson Werth."

    Thanks for 2013, Mr. Choo. If Boras holds hard to this line of thinking I REALLY dont think the Reds will pay it, nor would I want them to do so. Who knows how it'll pan out...we'll see.

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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    Sure. But it's not Boras' decision.

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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    Goodbye, Mr. Choo.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    Boras isn't always right, why do we act like he's some sort of perfect agent?

    He messed up bad with Michael Bourne just last year, and he ended up asking way too much in the beginning, only to get way less last-minute with the Tribe.

    He also over-valued Ryan Madsen, and the Reds were able to work that deal.
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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    Quote Originally Posted by redsrule2500 View Post
    Boras isn't always right, why do we act like he's some sort of perfect agent?

    He messed up bad with Michael Bourne just last year, and he ended up asking way too much in the beginning, only to get way less last-minute with the Tribe.

    He also over-valued Ryan Madsen, and the Reds were able to work that deal.
    The only problem is he is not over-valuing Choo.

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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    Quote Originally Posted by redsrule2500 View Post
    Boras isn't always right, why do we act like he's some sort of perfect agent?

    He messed up bad with Michael Bourne just last year, and he ended up asking way too much in the beginning, only to get way less last-minute with the Tribe.

    He also over-valued Ryan Madsen, and the Reds were able to work that deal.
    But that would still rule out the Reds, right? Isn't there still a rule that says if a team hasn't signed one of thier own free agents by January he can't negotiate back with that team until May (therefore missing a month of the season)?

    That's what happened with Sabo. The Reds offered him way more than what he ended up signing for, but because his agent had him convinced he could get more he waited until past the point where he could negoiate with Cincy and ended up going somewhere else.
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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    Of course Boras is going to say this. He's not going to go the media and tell them what the reasonable price for Choo is.
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    If Choo leaves, it will be terrible, but there is a bright side.

    Maybe then the Reds will focus on putting together a real championship caliber offense.

    They may be forced to make changes if Choo leaves that they otherwise might not make.

    Still, would rather Choo stays, terrific player.

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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    Nice infomercial.
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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    According to fWAR, he has been worth $26.9M this season.

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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    If Choo leaves, it will be terrible, but there is a bright side.

    Maybe then the Reds will focus on putting together a real championship caliber offense.

    They may be forced to make changes if Choo leaves that they otherwise might not make.

    Still, would rather Choo stays, terrific player.
    Id almost rather see him go, collect the pick, and build the championship caliber offense they needed this year. Get a right handed power bat please.
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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    If Choo leaves, it will be terrible, but there is a bright side.

    Maybe then the Reds will focus on putting together a real championship caliber offense.

    They may be forced to make changes if Choo leaves that they otherwise might not make.

    Still, would rather Choo stays, terrific player.
    yup -- even though he has at times looked helpless against lefties (.217 BA) he has managed a .349 OBP with them --- I think he'd look great in LF in Cincy but if the same RH bats are in the line up .....
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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    Dave Cameron guessed 5/75 for Choo today.

    Ummmm yes please.

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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Dave Cameron guessed 5/75 for Choo today.

    Ummmm yes please.
    Was Dave Cameron sober? I like his work, but that's BJ Upton Money.
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    Re: If Boras gets his way, Choo likely won't be a Red.

    The strategic path the Reds need to forge in keeping Shin-Soo Choo seems pretty straightforward to me.

    Win the World Series.
    There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.

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