Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat13 View Post
Asking that question of Milwaukee and St. Louis is fair. The other cities are so much bigger than Cincinnati that you can't really include them in this discussion. I would almost guarantee there are more people without kids in NYC and Chicago than the total amount of people in Cincinnati.
Fair point but if all teams live in cities with this problem, let's not pretend that the problem is unique to Cincinnati.

Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
Having a more vibrant urban core and better city neighborhoods would help -- white flight pushed a lot of the middle-class suburbs out to places like West Chester, Loveland, and Mason. The trip to the ballpark becomes more of an ordeal when it's 30+ minutes there and 30+ minutes back.

For myself, living 5 minutes from downtown, a nice night and a lack of other plans are all it takes to get me to the yard.
Again, another good point but a lot of cities are in this boat as well. And that's not a problem the Reds - or any other team - can fix just by themselves. The Reds have to figure out ways to draw more people despite those issues. That series with the Dodgers only drew 108K and change despite the BRM being there, despite one of the most exciting young players in baseball coming in, despite perfect weather, despite it being the 1st place ancient rival Dodgers, despite the Reds taking 3 of 4 from StL. I was at that Saturday game. If there were 40K there, there were about 7K disguised as empty seats. There were blocks of seats all around me that were empty and the same goes for all around the stadium.