I'm not mad at Ludwick, he was trying to pump the fans out, and of course our stupid media has to try to twist it into something controversial.
What other fan base gets excited when a pinch runner comes in?
How about Chapman?
Or the strikeout right before free pizza?
I saw a few games this year. I thought the crowd was ok, until the bullpen blew it the leads (every time). That's naturally going to take the air out of the crowd.
Get homefield advantage in the wildcard game and this place will be rocking.
And try to stop only taking only 1 out of 3 from mets, brewers, cubs, etc. as we've been doing recently.. Man oh man, those last two Met games would've been horrible to see live.
Thank you Walt and Bob for bringing winning baseball back to Cincy
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
My son finished his senior year of baseball this year, you know how many kids were cut from varsity...1
and only because he was awful. Oh yea, it's a school of around 2400 students.
Now everyone knows that African American kids just don't play baseball, extremely low numbers. But this is a predominantly white student body, 95% at least.
Among the young in my neck of the woods, baseball is of little interest.
Oh yea, I'm in the Dayton area.
I read some time ago that on any given night at a Reds game, about 40% of the crowd was from the greater Dayton area.
$1 beer nights will get the fans fired up. Ryan and Co. can chip in to make up for lost revenue.
Last edited by Falcon7; 09-26-2013 at 12:38 AM.
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If a wide majority of fans can't take the time to appreciate Votto for what he is, how can we expect them to turn out on a school night at the park. I think for many the Reds are just background noise duing their daily routines (literally a TV on in the background). That's not a horrible thing, it just is what it is. I know the reality and I certainly am not upset the Reds don't draw 30k on a Sept school night.
What other fan base can claim the Banana Phone? I'm pretty sure the same low information audience voting in a FSOH poll is the group burning up the phone lines during a rain delay. I'd be willing to bet the saviest of Redszone posters has rarely if ever voted in an online or text TV poll. Choo as MVP - sure. BP - about to go under .700 OPS on the season.
The Votto issue has also been a national debate stirred up by the local media. And it is an intereting conversation even though the pundits are mostly wrong. DatDude has really had a sub par offensive year minus the unsustainable RISP that has cooled dramatically in Sept. .681 OPS and .299 OBP post all star break (Cozart is .722 and .319) and .707/.320 on the year. Those last four years are going to be painful on that contract. Hope I am very wrong.
What has Ryan Ludwick contributed to this team that gives him the right to complain about our fans? I'll be glad when he's gone.
"I talked to an advance scout that told me if Joey Votto and Albert Pujols were on the same team he'd advise his team to do the unthinkable...pitch around Votto to get to Pujols." - Buster Olney, ESPN
The attendance this year on the weekends and during most of the summer months was pretty good, but the September weeknight games just followed the same pattern of most other years with low attendance. It's the same as April; people shell out a ton of money jockeying for Opening Day tickets, but a Tuesday night game two weeks later struggles to draw 20,000.
I will say, though, that I'm quite disappointed in the ticket sales so far for postseason games. Seriously, if you think you missed out by losing the ticket lottery, think again. There are virtually entire SECTIONS of open seats for the NL Wildcard game Tuesday night and both potential home LDS games. One would think demand for those games would be a bit higher (I know the debacle with afternoon game times last year may be a culprit, and some people may not want to deal with late notice on game times this year).
Of course, the Reds could go out and lose two this weekend to the Pirates, shift the Wildcard game to Pittsburgh and then get beat. And those of us who bought tickets to playoff games would have nothing to show for it other than a $4 donation to TicketMaster for an order processing fee to purchase tickets to games that never happened.
Kevin Gregg and Jason Marquis will bring back memories of the Lost Decade.
So is Ryan Braun still calling fans while Ryan Ludwick is calling them out?
Last edited by RANDY IN INDY; 09-26-2013 at 07:31 AM.
Talent is God Given: be humble.
Fame is man given: be thankful.
Conceit is self given: be careful.
I am in NJ so I don't have the same perspective as many others do, but I can say this. There always seems to be some sort of excuse as to why the team doesn't draw. Record, school, weather, etc.
To me it is all nonsense. This is your team. Fill the stadium. We can make jokes all we want about Florida and other teams, however this isn't much better.