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    Re: Is the unbalanced schedule unfair...

    I think the "fairness" aspect is a little overplayed.

    For a .500 team, the difference between playing a perfectly balanced schedule and playing the schedule the Yankees have played (a .514 winning percentage) would result in a difference of 2.5 fewer wins a season based on log5. Those two games could certainly be the difference in making or not making the playoffs, no doubt, but as it is, even 3 more wins and the Yankees would still be mathematically eliminated with one more loss or a win by either Tampa Bay or Cleveland this weekend.

    The Yankees have an extreme scheduling disadvantage and even in their case, it statistically didn't make a difference between making and not making the playoffs. I just think an unbalanced schedule in baseball isn't really that big a deal.
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    Re: Is the unbalanced schedule unfair...

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Why isn't it possible? Each team plays the same 14 opponents in the league. Have a heavier portion of those games be in division. Outside of division face each team an equal number of times both home and away.

    162 is not set in stone. To be honest, it should be reduced with them expanding the playoffs.
    It is not possible because with 15 teams in each league and no inter-league play, there will always be two teams-1 in each league- with no one to play. Unless there was tremendously odd scheduling going on, teams would be facing 3 day layoffs throughout the season while the other 14 teams in the league played their 7 daily games.

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    Re: Is the unbalanced schedule unfair...

    it hurt the reds this year to have two excellent teams in their division vs the Braves who played against chumps

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    Re: Is the unbalanced schedule unfair...

    Brewers, Cards, Cubs, Pirates: 9 games each at home, 9 games each away. (72 games)

    Rest of NL (10 teams): 3 games each at home, 3 games each away. (60 games)

    132 games total. Start the season about 2 weeks later (to avoid snow). End the season about 2 week earlier (to avoid football and to expand playoffs). Bring back some double headers...1 home, 1 away against each team in division. They can be true double headers or day/night...I don't really care. But bring them back. They're fun for the fans AND they'll help shorten the season even more OR puts in a few extra days off during the season to help with player durability.

    5 teams per league make playoffs. 2 wild cards, 3 division winners. 2 wild cards play best of 5. Re-seed after wild card series. Best faces worst, two middle clubs each other. Best of 5 for the 1st round. Best of 7 for the pennant. Best of 7 for the World Series.

    All told, the number of games don't change that much. But we avoid quite a bit of the poorest weather, we avoid running into the middle of the football season, and we make the playoffs more interesting than a 1 and done for the wild cards. Plus, by winning your division, you really get a boost by gaining a week to heal your players.

    ~edit~ I just saw klw's post. So disband 2 clubs. 1 each league. Or the other route, expansion. I'd prefer fewer.
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    Re: Is the unbalanced schedule unfair...

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    132 games total. Start the season about 2 weeks later (to avoid snow). End the season about 2 week earlier (to avoid football and to expand playoffs).
    No one is going to agree to chop 18.5% of the season. Not owners, who will lose at the gate and in tv dollars. Not tv networks, which will lose advertising. Not players, who will lose salary.

    Never mind the purists who say keep it at 162 (or at a bare minimum, 154) for statistical purposes.

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    Re: Is the unbalanced schedule unfair...

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Brewers, Cards, Cubs, Pirates: 9 games each at home, 9 games each away. (72 games)

    Rest of NL (10 teams): 3 games each at home, 3 games each away. (60 games)

    132 games total. Start the season about 2 weeks later (to avoid snow). End the season about 2 week earlier (to avoid football and to expand playoffs). Bring back some double headers...1 home, 1 away against each team in division. They can be true double headers or day/night...I don't really care. But bring them back. They're fun for the fans AND they'll help shorten the season even more OR puts in a few extra days off during the season to help with player durability.

    5 teams per league make playoffs. 2 wild cards, 3 division winners. 2 wild cards play best of 5. Re-seed after wild card series. Best faces worst, two middle clubs each other. Best of 5 for the 1st round. Best of 7 for the pennant. Best of 7 for the World Series.

    All told, the number of games don't change that much. But we avoid quite a bit of the poorest weather, we avoid running into the middle of the football season, and we make the playoffs more interesting than a 1 and done for the wild cards. Plus, by winning your division, you really get a boost by gaining a week to heal your players.

    ~edit~ I just saw klw's post. So disband 2 clubs. 1 each league. Or the other route, expansion. I'd prefer fewer.
    Hate this idea

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    Re: Is the unbalanced schedule unfair...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    or is this just whining by mediots that their beloved Yankees missed the playoffs?

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/u...rd-race-092213
    The season schedule is set prior to the previous years end. It would be extremely difficult to make a perfectly balanced schedule or even a purposely unbalanced one. If you look at what happened with many of those teams, the Red Sox was the wild card.... And they were largely projected to suck this year.

    I call shenanigans to their complaints.

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    Re: Is the unbalanced schedule unfair...

    The interleague rivalry thing is the problem. Without that, teams in the same division could play basically the same schedule, give or take a game or so. Balanced or unbalanced, I want the Reds playing basically the same schedule as the Pirates, Cardinals, Cubs, and Brewers. I could care less if we only play the Indians once every three years. I'd rather get rid of interleague entirely and expand to 32 teams, but that won't happen
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    Re: Is the unbalanced schedule unfair...

    Fair and balanced? How about two NL divisions being won by huge margins, and the last division with three teams in contention for the division and through much of the year... Any three of them could take their record and would have led any other division in baseball..... Answer that and then try to talk about a unfair game schedule.


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