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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    pretty comprehensive article here on the Liriano/Cueto matchup
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-game-offenses

    note that the v-Liriano numbers below are career numbers, while the general vLHP numbers are only for 2013

    What I'd like to see:
    Phillips 2B (.333 OBP v Liriano; .328 OBP v LHP)
    Votto 1B (.333 OBP v Liriano; .377 OBP v LHP)
    Mesoraco C (2-6, 2 2B, 3 BB v. Liriano; .321/.386/.487 v LHP)
    Ludwick LF (4-9 v Liriano; .269/.321/.462 v LHP)
    Heisey CF (2-3, 1 HR, 1 BB v Liriano; .259/.316/.494 v LHP)
    Frazier 3B (3-9, 2 HR v Liriano; .236/.311/.471 v LHP)
    Bruce RF (0-11 v Liriano; .246/.291/.443 v LHP)
    Cozart SS .200/.273/.500 v Liriano ; .245/.275/.411 v LHP)

    This leaves Choo available to pinch hit and double-switch in, and leaves Hamilton to pinch run or pinch hit from his more effective left-hand side

    What I expect to see:
    CF Choo
    LF Ludwick
    1B Votto
    2B Phillips
    RF Bruce
    3B Frazier
    SS Cozart
    C Hanigan

    No chance in hell Choo isn't in the lineup, although the data suggests it should be considered vs. Liriano. I don't trust any of the other guys to get the job done any better.
    Rounding third and heading for home...

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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    Any lineup that includes Chris Heisey is crazy. Especially if the other player is Choo. I don't care how horrible Choo is against left handers. I don't care because Heisey is mostly horrible against every pitcher. Once in awhile a blind squirrel finds a nut, but this is not once in awhile. Just one more reason why this is going to be a very stressful night.
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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    Choo's 1-for-12 career vs Liriano, BUT only three Ks. That's stretching for something positive, but it's not as bad as I suspected. Maybe he can work his HBP magic again Tuesday.
    Rounding third and heading for home...

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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    Anyone else considering road tripping it?
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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    I like the Reds chances

    4 Games sweeps do not happen that often

    Not many playoff teams loose 6 games in a row

    Liriano is 0-3 VS the Reds this season

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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Krawhitham View Post
    I like the Reds chances

    4 Games sweeps do not happen that often

    Not many playoff teams loose 6 games in a row

    Liriano is 0-3 VS the Reds this season
    Not many play-off teams get no hit in the post-season...

    Not many play-off teams win the first two on the road only to lose a best of 5 by losing three in a row at home...
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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    Catcher: Ryan Hanigan vs. Russell Martin


    First base: Joey Votto vs. Justin Morneau


    Second base: Brandon Phillips vs. Neil Walker


    Shortstop: Zack Cozart vs. Jordy Mercer


    Third base: Todd Frazier vs. Pedro Alvarez


    Left field: Ryan Ludwick vs. Starling Marte


    Center field: Shin-Soo Choo vs. Andrew McCutchen


    Right field: Jay Bruce vs. Marlon Byrd


    Bench X-factor: Billy Hamilton vs. Travis Snider


    Starting pitcher: Johnny Cueto vs. Francisco Liriano


    Bullpen: Aroldis Chapman, J.J. Hoover, Sean Marshall, Sam LeCure et al vs. Jason Grilli, Mark Melancon, Tony Watson, Justin Wilson et al


    Defense


    In fact, by calling this even an argument can be made I'm being generous to Phillips. He's one of baseball's most overrated offensive players.
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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    The Reds are now officially due for a win. Dusty had the team tank the last game to play the odds game.
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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    I think the creator of the graphic is right in most matchups..

    I think that the ss situation is pretty even and cozart started to get going the past month..

    bp is on a steady decline and with the injury I think you could argue that they have the edge on 2nd base...

    manager matchup goes to the pirates aswell and although Hamilton is a good weapon on the bench we donīt really have a good bench..

    if brandon is out weīll see izturis play... and we donīt have guys who can hit on the bench... I donīt see that big of an edge on the bench for the reds outside of bh

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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    I saw on Twitter that we can have any combination for the roster for the WC and then reset when we go to the NLDS. I think it is already speculated that we are only brining 2 SP, but what about the rest of the roster?

    I did a quick assessment and got this:

    1. Cueto
    2. Latos
    3. Simon
    4. Chapman
    5. Marshall
    6. Hoover
    7. LeCure
    8. Parra
    9.Votto
    10. Phillips
    11. Cozart
    12. Frazier
    13. Hanigan
    14. Mesoraco
    15. Izturis
    16. Hanahan
    17. Bruce
    18. Choo
    19. Ludwick
    20. Paul
    21. Heisey
    22. Hamilton

    That leaves 3 spots left. Who do you bring in those spots? More pitching or more hitting?

    I would say Robinson, Corky, and mabye Ondrusek for RH pitching.

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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    Robinson and Corky weren't on the 25 man roster on August 31st. Assuming Hamilton takes Masset's spot, I guess you could put one of them on for Broxton. That's about it, though.
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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BungleBengals View Post
    I saw on Twitter that we can have any combination for the roster for the WC and then reset when we go to the NLDS. I think it is already speculated that we are only brining 2 SP, but what about the rest of the roster?

    I did a quick assessment and got this:

    1. Cueto
    2. Latos
    3. Simon
    4. Chapman
    5. Marshall
    6. Hoover
    7. LeCure
    8. Parra
    9.Votto
    10. Phillips
    11. Cozart
    12. Frazier
    13. Hanigan
    14. Mesoraco
    15. Izturis
    16. Hanahan
    17. Bruce
    18. Choo
    19. Ludwick
    20. Paul
    21. Heisey
    22. Hamilton

    That leaves 3 spots left. Who do you bring in those spots? More pitching or more hitting?

    I would say Robinson, Corky, and mabye Ondrusek for RH pitching.

    Thoughts?
    No reason to bring Latos right? They already said they're HOPING he's available Thursday. I'd probably add Robinson as #23. Leake over Latos as the backup/emergency SP. If Duke is eligible, I think he'll be #24. Cingrani if available, Ondrusek if not as 25. Not sure thought if I have too many "exemptions" in there that weren't around on Aug 31.

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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    Kind of embarrassed to admit this, but I am going to go over to my parents house to watch the game. Just too intense for me to have the kids running around, getting ready for bed, etc. my wife is rolling her eyes at me, but kind of accepted this about me long ago...

    So, yeah, I'm 35 years old and going to go to my Mommy's house to watch a baseball game so no one will distract me

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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    Generally speaking, in the eyes of the media and the casual/non-biased fan, are the Reds the underdog here?

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    Re: Official Wild Card Pre-Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaRed View Post
    Generally speaking, in the eyes of the media and the casual/non-biased fan, are the Reds the underdog here?
    Without question. Cueto is a total wild card, the Pirates are at home, Liriano owned the Reds in their most recent encounter, Reds offense is in a funk, Pirates just swept the Reds, Reds have lost five in a row, Pirates have won 5 of 6, etc.
    This is the ol Left Hander rounding third and heading for home.


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