Same reds we have seen all year....sometimes people (myself included) are such big fans that we can't see the real team from all the good things they do against inferior talent.....this is the same team we have seen since April. I'm not shocked at all. This is what our talent has gotten us. Barely good enough to make the playoffs but never gonna be good enough to stay in the playoffs more than a week. It's who we are and it's who we have been for 3-4 years and it's the team that was built. Our holes are still holes no matter which way you try and spin it.