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    Re: Trade rumor thread

    The only way I give a guy a long deal like that is if he walks a lot, does not rely on speed a lot, can adjust his approach to maximize his ABs as his bat speed slips a bit and plays a position that won't unduly wear down his body. Hmmmmm.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedlegJake View Post
    The only way I give a guy a long deal like that is if he walks a lot, does not rely on speed a lot, can adjust his approach to maximize his ABs as his bat speed slips a bit and plays a position that won't unduly wear down his body. Hmmmmm.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BungleBengals View Post
    I was also thinking that maybe we make it BP, Cueto, and Ludwick for Kemp and Ellis.

    That way Ludwick becomes a 4th OF for them. Which is a role he would probably thrive in as long as he doesn't call out the fans. 50,000 boos is going to be a lot louder than the 30,000 he got here.
    That could definitely work. I think the key to dealing BP is finding a decent second basemen to take his place.

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    Issues for the offseason are:
    1. Choo and leadoff slot
    2. 2nd spot in lineup
    3. cleanup hitter
    4. Homer and pending free agency
    5. Weak bench

    Solution is really simple and clear:
    1. Trade Phillips and Broxton to the Dodgers for Kemp
    2. Resign Choo for 4/80
    3. Sign Cano for 7/200
    4. Trade Bailey and Ludwick to Texas in three way with Tampa with Profar to Tampa and Price to the Reds, both Texas and Price get windows to extend. Reds extend Price at 4/80.
    5. Trade Hannahan and Corcino to SF for Sandoval
    6. Sign Grant Balfour and Edward Mujica to fill Chapman and Broxton's role in the pen.
    7. Sign Roy Halladay, Johan Santan, Ted Lilly, and Daisuke Matsuzaka to MiLB contracts be the l6th starter in case issues with health, Cingrani or Chapman arise.
    8. sign Johhny Peralta to give MI bench depth
    9. Sign Carlos Beltran as the 4th outfielder
    10. print money (maybe should be step 1)

    Regulars (8)
    LF Choo
    1B Votto
    2b Cano
    CF Kemp
    RF Bruce
    3B Sandoval
    SS Cozart
    C Mesoraco

    SP(5)
    SP Price
    SP Latos
    SP Cueto
    SP Cingrani
    SP Chapman

    Bench: (5)
    Frazier
    Hanigan
    Peralta
    Beltran (with starts in LF vs. Lefties)
    Hamilton

    Bullpen: (7)
    Lecure
    Balfour
    Mujica
    Simon
    Parra
    Hoover
    Marshall

    Pretty simple really, I can only think of a couple of impediments.

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    When did the Reds get the Dodgers budget?

    EDIT: nevermind lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
    The old Votto is back when he starts cussing himself out between pitches.

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    Re: Trade rumor thread

    Castellini does have deep pockets. Why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BungleBengals View Post
    Castellini does have deep pockets. Why not?
    Well I heard somewhere that there is a new fruit or vegetable coming out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Well I heard somewhere that there is a new fruit or vegetable coming out.
    It's a new type of cucumber called a "French Pickler".

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    Re: Trade rumor thread

    I was listening to the radio tonight, I think it was Mark Amazon.

    Anyways, he had Jeff Brantley on the phone and they were talking about Price and Phillips.

    Brantley was being hypothetical, but he said he would definitely move Brandon Phillips if it brought back something in return. Then he threw out a scenario with the Blue Jays.

    He thinks that the Blue Jays would love to have BP and would give up Bautista for him. They need a 2B and he said that a lot of guys from the Montreal Expos (the team that drafted BP) have been keeping tabs on him and have been waiting for him to become available.

    I am not sure if what he is saying is true or just adding fluff to his argument, but I think that is one of the few trades I would do with BP. However, I think besides getting a major high profile guy in return for ours, I would be fine if BP stayed. This whole on the market thing could be a tactic by Bob and Walt to keep BP on his toes and understand his place in this organization. He is seeing a hand specialist today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BungleBengals View Post
    I was listening to the radio tonight, I think it was Mark Amazon.

    Anyways, he had Jeff Brantley on the phone and they were talking about Price and Phillips.

    Brantley was being hypothetical, but he said he would definitely move Brandon Phillips if it brought back something in return. Then he threw out a scenario with the Blue Jays.

    He thinks that the Blue Jays would love to have BP and would give up Bautista for him. They need a 2B and he said that a lot of guys from the Montreal Expos (the team that drafted BP) have been keeping tabs on him and have been waiting for him to become available.

    I am not sure if what he is saying is true or just adding fluff to his argument, but I think that is one of the few trades I would do with BP. However, I think besides getting a major high profile guy in return for ours, I would be fine if BP stayed. This whole on the market thing could be a tactic by Bob and Walt to keep BP on his toes and understand his place in this organization. He is seeing a hand specialist today.
    I know it's not your trade idea but why would Toronto give up Bautista for Phillips?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyInTheBank View Post
    I know it's not your trade idea but why would Toronto give up Bautista for Phillips?
    Blue Jay second basemen turned in a sparkling .233/.286/.338 line last year, with pretty terrible defense to boot. They've also got some decent outfield depth with Anthony Gose potentially ready to play full time next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyInTheBank View Post
    I know it's not your trade idea but why would Toronto give up Bautista for Phillips?
    Just look up the JaysJournal.com and a lot of the more recent articles are about Bautista. They are calling for him to be shipped because of his apparent lack of leadership and fire on the team.

    That is something we may not necessarily want, but I think with changes of scenery for both JB and BP would be nice.

    Plus they have a hole at 2B.

    Contracts are pretty similar too.

    JB has 2 years and $28M left with a $14M team option in 2016 when he is 35.

    BP has 4 years and $50M left.
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    Re: Trade rumor thread

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/1...medium=twitter

    Arb projected numbers for the Angels.

    Just throwing it out there, but maybe offer a SP for Trumbo. Homer really likes Price being here and if we can get Chapman to move to SP, then I think that Cueto or Leake is next in line to be moved. I prefer to move Cueto. He is making a lot of money for all of us to hold our breath every time he twists his delivery. He also doesn't appear to be in shape like a healthy pitcher should.

    I would gauge the Angels to see if they would like Leake for Trumbo only because their salaries are pretty close next season (Leake projected $5.5M vs. Trumbo projected $4.5M). If Leake is good enough then I would try Cueto. Cueto is making $20M the next 2 seasons and I think I speak for most when I say that I would rather than money go to Latos and Bailey extensions.
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    Re: Trade rumor thread

    I think I'd pass on trumbo. Idk how much of an upgrade over ludwick he'd be. I think leake or cueto could be cashed in for more elsewhere

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    Trumbo just isn't an upgrade. His career OBP is south of 300 (.299) and has been below that 2 of his 3 seasons. He has pop but not enough to justify all those outs and not great defense.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...rumbma01.shtml

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