I think the Trumbo idea is crazy. Just nuts. Just trade BP for Uggla. Raw power, better OBP, low average and bad defense. Trumbo is younger. That's about it. Both ideas are terrible. But trading Leake or Cueto for Trumbo is awful/horribilis terrible. I'd much rather have Ludwick and keep Leake/Cueto. BP is probably going to get traded. You don't light matches between the owner's toes. I'd rather it be Bautista coming back than Uggla, though, that's for sure. Scrape together enough to rent Infante for a year or two.
"If this was a court of law, the cross examination would go after the credibility of the witness." Homer Bailey on Latos snarking on the team after his trade
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Yep. I don't think he's much more than a #5 starter, albeit a very good #5. Of all the guys starting at least 10 games this year for the Reds, Leake was far and away the worst pitcher. Making the assumption that Chapman is going to the rotation, Cueto and Latos are locks, Homer is extended and Arroyo leaves, does anyone really want Leake over Cingrani?
I mean anyone? No. So trade him while his value is high. You have Chad Rogers probably at AAA, Stephenson at AA, so there are replacements in the pipeline. Plus there will a FA filler or 2 signed for depth.
The time to move Leake is now. His value and cost to the acquiring team will never be better. Leake to the Mets for Duda makes some sense.
Suck it up cupcake.
I think Leake is a good pitcher, but I think it may be a good time to trade him while he is at his peak value. I remember last spring training there were reports scouts from other teams were "raving" about him. After the solid season he had in 2013 you would have to figure the reds could get a very nice return for him from a team desperate for starting pitching.
A good fit might be up north in Cleveland, they could definitely use rotation depth. Or maybe the Chicago White Sox.
How about this idea:
Avisail Garcia for Mike Leake. Cheap, left field option with good hitting potential and years of control.
I'm a fan of moving Chapman. He's got soooo much value locked up to only pitch so little. Sure transitioning him to a starter might get some value but I'd rather trade him for an offensive upgrade
The tigers need to shore up their BP.... Perhaps Austin Jackson for Chapman plus BH?
XU Lou (10-26-2013)
Massive overpay for austin jackson
BH is fast but hitting still needs to be proven. If not Billy then Lamarre, but Chapman is what makes the deal work.
Jackson, Bruce Rondon and Melvin Mercedes for Chapman, Ondrusek and Lamarre would work for me.
Chapman to the Tigers is absolutely a path that should be investigated.
"All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH
Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS
Counting on Gose would be like the Reds trading Bruce and counting on Hamilton to fill the void.
Again, I'm not saying it can't or won't happen. I just think the Reds would have to kick in significant $ or prospects to make it worth Toronto's while.
I think Dexter Fowler makes more sense than Austin Jackson, because the Rockies need pitching all over, have other OF options, and have already hinted that he might be available. If I was the Tigers I wouldn't want to open a hole in CF just to get a closer. Maybe if they lose Infante you could talk BP for Jackson.