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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by SidneySlicker View Post
    I just don't get why people are so set on adding pitching. Did you guys not watch the same offense that
    I did this season? I've see Jurickson Profar's name come up. If it were me I'd much rather target Xander Bogaerts
    than Profar. I'm not sure if Boston would be willing to give him up, but I'd do trade Chapman for a package that
    would revolve around Bogaerts.
    Profar and Bogaerts are both elite young players, but the reason Profar's name comes up so often in trade scenarios is because the Rangers have no place to put him on the field. They may be more willing to trade him than the Red Sox would be with Bogaerts.

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    I would trade Chapman in a heartbeat if I could get good value. We have way too much money tied up in the bullpen as it is. And as we say this year, you can be a dominant reliever and still end up no better at saving games. Let's cash that chit in.

    Keep Choo if possible and platoon him with Ludwick for this year.

    My lineup:

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    Last edited by RedsManRick; 10-07-2013 at 03:41 AM.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I was actively looking to trade him in July.

    You're slipping.
    I was trying to deal him last off-season. I still think they could work a package for Giancarlo with him prominently involved.

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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Profar and Bogaerts are both elite young players, but the reason Profar's name comes up so often in trade scenarios is because the Rangers have no place to put him on the field. They may be more willing to trade him than the Red Sox would be with Bogaerts.
    I don't think there's any doubt about that. Bogaerts is likely untouchable.
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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Hearing on rotoworld.com that the Rays are likely to trade David Price this winter.

    Joel Sherman of the New York Post reached out to nine baseball executives yesterday to ask if they felt David Price would get moved this winter and they all said yes. Price, like Matt Garza and James Shields when they were dealt from Tampa Bay, is two years away from free agency, meaning that this is the time to move him. The Rangers came up most often as the most likely destination followed by the Cubs, Diamondbacks, Padres, Red Sox, Giants, and Reds.
    That was copied from MLBTradeRumors.com
    Last edited by OneManBand; 10-07-2013 at 11:08 AM.

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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by OneManBand View Post
    Hearing on rotoworld.com that the Rays are likely to trade David Price this winter.

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    Joel Sherman of the New York Post reached out to nine baseball executives yesterday to ask if they felt David Price would get moved this winter and they all said yes. Price, like Matt Garza and James Shields when they were dealt from Tampa Bay, is two years away from free agency, meaning that this is the time to move him. The Rangers came up most often as the most likely destination followed by the Cubs, Diamondbacks, Padres, Red Sox, Giants, and Reds.


    That was copied from MLBTradeRumors.com
    I would love to know who said the Reds would be a likely destination. While it would be great to have Price, the package it would take to get a guy like that would be much more effectively used in getting a cleanup hitter.

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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Keep Choo if possible and platoon him with Ludwick for this year.
    Seriously? I would imagine that if they kept Choo to the tune of 5 years/$100 million, he would be the starting LF. He does still get on base against LHP, so he's not a complete loss.

    If anything, I would imagine they would have a de facto four-man OF, with Choo sharing time with both Ludwick and Hamilton in LF/CF.
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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by krm1580 View Post
    I would love to know who said the Reds would be a likely destination. While it would be great to have Price, the package it would take to get a guy like that would be much more effectively used in getting a cleanup hitter.
    Well, if they did deal for Price, that would be a pretty profound sign of a shift in organizational philosophy -- completely away from offense and toward pitching and D. I can remember not too long ago when it was the reverse.

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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    I was trying to deal him last off-season. I still think they could work a package for Giancarlo with him prominently involved.
    That would probably be a very bad deal for the Marlins. Trading a young, legit middle of the order bat for a reliever who makes good money is not what they would be looking for.
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Well, if they did deal for Price, that would be a pretty profound sign of a shift in organizational philosophy -- completely away from offense and toward pitching and D. I can remember not too long ago when it was the reverse.
    Well that would be a huge mistake imo. The Reds offense is broken and needs fixing. They need to leverage their assets for hitting and not pitching because it's going to be a baren wasteland when it comes to free agency.

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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post

    Keep Choo if possible and platoon him with Ludwick for this year.
    Ellsbury vs LHP: 78wRC+(2013), 96wRC+(Career)
    Ellsbury vs RHP: 133wRC+(2013), 115wRC+(Career)

    Choo vs LHP: 81wRC+(2013), 92wRC+(Career)
    Choo vs RHP: 183wRC+(2013), 154wRC+(Career)

    Do you consider Ellsbury as a platoon player?

    Choo is not a platoon player, period.

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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by SidneySlicker View Post
    Well that would be a huge mistake imo. The Reds offense is broken and needs fixing. They need to leverage their assets for hitting and not pitching because it's going to be a baren wasteland when it comes to free agency.
    I think the biggest problem last season was the pitching, I kid you not.

    The Reds lacked a true number one dominant arm, and it hurt them in big series, and of course, the wildcard game. If Cueto was healthy and the same Cueto from 2011-12, I think the Red win the division. Cingrani did fine in his place, but missed a bunch of starts, resulting in AAA pitchers starting at least 3 times, and never gave the Reds the innings Cueto would have.

    That taxed the bullpen, which was another problem. They did okay, but lacked that second elite arm besides Chapman. Way too many crucial innings for Broxton, LeCure, Parra and Hoover.

    Reds need a true top of the rotation arm. I think either Cueto, Cingrani or Chapman could be that arm in the rotation, but at the same time, all three could be disasters as well.

    That's why Price makes sense.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by krm1580 View Post
    I would love to know who said the Reds would be a likely destination. While it would be great to have Price, the package it would take to get a guy like that would be much more effectively used in getting a cleanup hitter.
    If a package for price could be pulled off without having to give up a starter, this creates pitching depth and would make it easier to move a bailey or cueto for offense while actually upgrading the rotation and not relying in young guns unknowns or retreads.

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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    White Sox Expected To Pursue Curtis Granderson
    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/1...randerson.html
    The White Sox will have a lot of holes to fill this offseason, and Daryl Van Schouwen of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that the they're expected to push hard for free agent outfielder Curtis Granderson. The connection makes sense not only based on team needs but because Granderson is an Illinois native who played college ball at the University of Illinois-Chicago. Granderson recently donated a new baseball facility to UIC, and that facility is roughly three miles from U.S. Cellular Field, writes Van Schouwen.
    Granderson will be one of the main beneficiaries of Hunter Pence's lofty five-year, $90MM extension this offseason. Not only did Pence's deal set a high precedent for corner outfielders, it also removed one of Granderson's main competitors from the free agent market before the season even ended. Granderson and agent Matt Brown will still have to contend with the likes of Shin-Soo Choo, Carlos Beltran and perhaps Nelson Cruz, who is expected to receive a qualifying offer from the Rangers. I profiled Granderson's free agent case last month and estimated that he could fetch three years and $45MM based on his track record, though that was before Pence's contract was signed. Granderson said recently that his preference is to stay with the Yankees, but it remains to be seen if they will make a serious push to retain him as they attempt to lower payroll.

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    Re: Official trade rumor thread.

    Price will be expensive. 10 million minimum, likely to go to 15 million in arbitration. That and likely prospects they would want would be Hamilton and Cingrani. For those reasons, I think it's unlikely the Reds pursue this trade.


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