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    Re: Trade rumor thread

    Parra was rock solid the last 3 months of the season

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    The 46IP Parra gave the Reds in 2013 were very solid. It's the previous 513IP in his MLB career that concern me.

    I don't think betting on established players to repeat their career year is a very sound strategy. That's the line of thinking that brought us Willy Taveras.

    Hopefully it works out but I won't hold my breath.

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    This year went from, "Oh no! Dusty is bringing in Parra" to "Why isn't Dusty bringing in Parra?"
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    Parra was remolded by Price so I don't see his prior innings as much as a deterrent. You have to look at circumstances surrounding a player's resurgence, not just his history per se. Now if he goes back to his old repertoire, then yes, there would be a concern. I just don't like giving big contracts to relievers so if it takes much to sign him, no for that reason, not any big doubt of his ability.
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    I for one would give Parra a two-year deal at a fair but not expensive rate. Here's the thinking.

    Unlike Masset and Broxton, this isn't a pitcher with his best years behind him who has had a heavy relief load. Parra was a starter, recently converted to the pen. He showed flashes with the Brewers against lefties; then Price finished the product.

    So, while you never know, Parra should be in good shape to have his best relief years in the range of 2013-15. He has been ascending, not descending, as a reliever.

    He has very good stuff and strikes out a lot of guys.

    Having helped him reach this point, I would try to keep him and reap the rewards for the next two years. He and Marshall (if healthy) give lefties on the opposition a lot to worry about in the later innings.

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    He and Marshall (if healthy) give lefties on the opposition a lot to worry about in the later innings.
    Agree that Parra is worth holding onto. Partly because Marshall probably still has a wounded wing, leaving the Reds with very little LH relief outside of Chapman (who is likely rotation bound).
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    Re: Trade rumor thread

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    Just kill me now. Goodyear has better retreads than that. Come on, Walt.
    How many teams have a better 2nd lefty out of the pen than Parra?
    Not many.

    Assuming Marshall is healthy, Parra is the best 2nd lefty the Reds have had out of the pen in a long time. (I'm considering Randy Myers the closer, much like Chapman, so Charlton was the 1st lefty, like Marshall)

    In fact, I can't remember a situation where the Reds had 2 non-closer lefties as good as Marshall/Parra. It's probably happened, I just can't recall.
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    Re: Trade rumor thread

    In 2013 Marshall was a non-factor. Hopefully that does not happen again in 2014.

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    I like Parra a lot and glad he became what he was, but what will his salary be next year if we signed him? I honestly have no clue, but I would hate to see us sink a lot of money into another contract when we are below a few others (Ludwick, Broxton, Phillips, etc).

    I thought Duke looked pretty good in his few appearances and he will likely be cheaper too.
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    I want Parra back, but I'm just about done giving middle relievers multi year deals.
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    Call me crazy, but I'd go year-to-year with almost all relievers. Too much year-to-year volatility, too many replaceable parts, and too many bad contracts- especially for a small market team.

    I KNOW Kc61 and FCB will strongly disagree here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Call me crazy, but I'd go year-to-year with almost all relievers. Too much year-to-year volatility, too many replaceable parts, and too many bad contracts- especially for a small market team.

    I KNOW Kc61 and FCB will strongly disagree here
    Don't disagree at all. Usually I think you are right.

    I was skeptical of the Masset deal, his numbers were declining. I was unsure about the Broxton deal for a couple of reasons, although I thought the club needed a closer if Chapman was starting. I favored the Marshall deal.

    In Parra's case, at a reasonable salary, I would do it. I just think he is reaching his peak as a reliever and will be effective for that time frame.

    But generally I agree, teams should give out multi-year deals to relievers sparingly.
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    As long as Parra isn't getting signed for 2 years 15 million.. That just asking for an injury

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    I wonder if Price leaves or is our manager if the new pitching coach will be able to get the results that they got out of pitchers like they did Hoover, Parra, et. al.
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    Re: Trade rumor thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Call me crazy, but I'd go year-to-year with almost all relievers. Too much year-to-year volatility, too many replaceable parts, and too many bad contracts- especially for a small market team.

    I KNOW Kc61 and FCB will strongly disagree here
    Kinda makes you glad that we only signed Madson for 1 year. Still $8M you had to eat, but at least you are not eating that 2 seasons in a row.

    Hopefully Ludwick and Broxton can live up to their contracts in 2014. Would be even better if they made up their 2013 expected production in 2014 too. Even though that would mean that Ludwick hits a HR a game and Broxton is scoreless all year, but I will take it
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