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    per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

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    Bronson Arroyo says he wants a three-year deal and he feels his time in Cincinnati is likely over. I have no preference on where I want to pitch but Ill certainly consider the team, their chances of winning, and all of that, he said. I feel I can pitch effectively at 37, 38, and 39 years old. Ive never missed a start. Never been injured. Im not a max-effort guy out there, so theres no big-time wear and tear on me. I loved Cincinnati but I dont think theyre in position to give me what I want. Cafardo suggests the Blue Jays, Orioles, Brewers, Cubs, Giants, Pirates, Cardinals, and Dodgers as possibilities.

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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    I think Arroyo will probably get a 3 year deal, though it may not be for the dollars he'd like. Cincy shouldn't go for a multi year for Arroyo, but I wouldn't cry if he came back for one more season.
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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    This is why I make him a qualifying offer and let him turn it down. Given the time frame for QAs there is just no way he is going to accept it, imo. Then the Reds can add a draft pick as compensation, either first or second round. If he does accept it, well, that is hardly a crisis - the starting depth will be thin next year. Very little risk he takes the offer.
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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    I think there is plenty of risk with an offer, and if I'm Arroyo I would take $13MM to stay with the Reds for another year and hope for a two-year deal starting in 2015.

    Now if Bob and Walt are fine with the risks associated with this offer - i.e. paying Bronson to be an expensive, but very durable rotation insurance policy - I say why not. But if they are looking to trim the budget a bit to use elsewhere and roll with the rotation as is (and not deal Bailey), I doubt they will take that risk.

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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    cingrani is better and cheaper, let him walk

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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by bob jones View Post
    cingrani is better and cheaper, let him walk
    I'm not advocating giving Arroyo a 3 yr. deal, but I'm not sure Cingrani is the answer. He's already been on the DL twice with barely 1 yr. service time. He throws harder, he's LH, and certainly younger and cheaper. He hasn't really been around long enough for teams to figure him out, and I say the jury's still out on him.

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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by bob jones View Post
    cingrani is better and cheaper, let him walk
    TC is certainly cheaper but I'm not yet convinced he's better. The injury bug bit him this year. Bronson walks out there every 5 days...seemingly through the end of time, to gobble up innings.

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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by bob jones View Post
    cingrani is better and cheaper, let him walk
    He'd nod along, but his back still really hurts.

    Meanwhile, Bronson Arroyo has never missed a start.
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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    he is old and is a 500 pitcher, a dependable .500 pitcher but still average, capable of getting bmombed on any given big game

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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by bob jones View Post
    he is old and is a 500 pitcher, a dependable .500 pitcher but still average, capable of getting bmombed on any given big game
    He takes the ball every 5th day, throws 200+ IP per year of better than league-average ball. You pencil him into the rotation at the start of the year and never worry about having to call up some jobber like Greg Reynolds for 4-5 starts in the middle of a season.

    You can disagree that he's worth the financial commitment, but don't soft-sell the value Arroyo has brought to the Reds thus far and would continue to bring to the Reds if they weren't cash-strapped from other deals.
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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    I think he would definitely turn down a qualifying offer.

    After all of his years with the club, to let him walk without draft compensation would be a relative criminal offense.
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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I think he would definitely turn down a qualifying offer.
    I think there is a very good chance that Arroyo accepts a $14Mil one year deal with the team he has been with for years. He knows that by turning that offer down, it will hurt his chances of getting a good multi year deal from antoher team.

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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I think he would definitely turn down a qualifying offer.

    After all of his years with the club, to let him walk without draft compensation would be a relative criminal offense.
    I think what happened last offseason will change how players handle qualifying offers. What happened to Lohse and Bourne will give players like Arroyo pause before turning down a qualifying offer.

    What does Arroyo stand to get in the open market? 3/30? 3/35? 3/40? If it's 3/30, he's probably better off accepting the qualifying offer.

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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beltway View Post
    What does Arroyo stand to get in the open market? 3/30? 3/35? 3/40? If it's 3/30, he's probably better off accepting the qualifying offer.
    Why would he spurn $16 million more in guaranteed money? I know I wouldn't and I'm guessing Arroyo knows he's not invincible.
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    Re: per mlbtraderumors.com, Bronson Arroyo wants a 3 year deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Why would he spurn $16 million more in guaranteed money? I know I wouldn't and I'm guessing Arroyo knows he's not invincible.
    He's 37. If he thinks he can get $20M guaranteed this year, no matter how many years, he might be smart to take that over $14M guaranteed for one year. At this age, he has to be worried about each year being his last.
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