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    Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    From his morning blog today:

    "Iíve also been told that DDBP will be available. That is a mistake, but apparently his personality has become too much for certain high-ups to bear."

    I get the feeling his cursing out C. Trent was the last straw, and that his comments about not being paid enough earlier didn't help. So, where do you think he goes?

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Not really surprising. I actually like BP, but I think it makes sense to trade him now if they can find a taker. Not sure who would be interested with that contract though. The Angels? The Yanks?

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    .706 OPS

    14:$11M
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    Gonna have to give somebody away to get that contract off your hands

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Worn out his welcome implies selling low. Any trade might have to be for someone else in need of a change of scenery.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    .706 OPS

    14:$11M
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    Gonna have to give somebody away to get that contract off your hands
    Not at all.

    That's not a lot of money for a decent starting secondbaseman. Philllips value has always been on defense, and that has stayed strong. All Phillips has to do to earn that contract is average 2.2 WAR a season. This year was his worst WAR as a Red, and it was 2.6.

    After Cano signs, Phillip will look like a bargain.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    .706 OPS

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    Gonna have to give somebody away to get that contract off your hands
    A number of big markets teams have a huge need for a 2B. Phillips has enough cache that he can be moved for decent value. Those dollars are what they used to be. Many will see 100 RBI's and GG defence.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Assuming he does get moved it has to be for a 2nd baseman right? There isn't anyone in the reds system who can play 2nd everyday in 2014 unless I'm missing someone.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Not really surprising. I actually like BP, but I think it makes sense to trade him now if they can find a taker. Not sure who would be interested with that contract though. The Angels? The Yanks?
    The Angels are looking to trade Trumbo because he'll cost too much in arbitration.They won't look to take on that contract.

    The Yanks might, but I remember reading they want to stay under the 179 million luxury tax.They might if they miss out on Cano.

    757690-I believe his value has been in the combination of power and speed, something you don't always get from a 2nd baseman. His doubles were down this year, and he only had 5 steals as well. Teams will be looking at the offensive value he can provide.
    Last edited by AmarilloRed; 10-07-2013 at 01:31 PM.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    No surprise on this one.

    For a team with budget constraints, the fat needs to be trimmed.

    I think he ends up meeting the 2.2 WAR benchmark on his deal, though I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't get there. But in the Reds case, there are guys you would rather spend the big bucks on.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilHamburger View Post
    Assuming he does get moved it has to be for a 2nd baseman right? There isn't anyone in the reds system who can play 2nd everyday in 2014 unless I'm missing someone.
    This is why the Reds are in on Alexander Guerrero.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilHamburger View Post
    Assuming he does get moved it has to be for a 2nd baseman right? There isn't anyone in the reds system who can play 2nd everyday in 2014 unless I'm missing someone.
    Not at all. A 2B would certainly have to be acquired, but totally not necessary in a BP deal.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    This is why the Reds are in on Alexander Guerrero.
    Exactly what I was going to say. If BP is on the block, then Walt must feel we are in very good standing with Guerrero.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Quote Originally Posted by nate1213 View Post
    Exactly what I was going to say. If BP is on the block, then Walt must feel we are in very good standing with Guerrero.
    I doubt it.

    If BP is available it's because of one thing and one thing only.

    This is a conservative ownership group annoyed with BP's behavior, particularly the rant against the beat reporter.

    It was said Bob C was upset with Dusty's handling of that situation, so it was definitely on ownership's screen.

    It's likely nothing to do with Guerrero or OBP or even the contract IMO.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Would hate to see him go, but I think they should be open-minded to just about anything short of dealing starting pitching.
    Rounding third and heading for home...

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Who is Alexander Gurerro?


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