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Alright, we're 35 pages into this thread and I still don't understand why Paul Daugherty wrote about Brandon Phillips' relationship status.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
The guys that don't text also sometimes lollygag and complain about their contracts.
Anytime Cincinnati gets a player that speaks his mind, the fans pretty much turn on him. And yes, this includes Arroyo, who was hated for awhile for saying he enjoyed Boston and might want to go back there someday.
Jojo, have you ever had a personal email at work? Made a personal phonecall during workhours? Thought you were underpaid? All of us have, because we're human, and not machines that focus 100% effort on our jobs during working hours.
Phillips' only mistake was being approachable to fans/media. The one thing he could learn from Votto is to avoid commenting on anything. And then when asked, Votto gives a nice cliche answer. I'm not complaining about Votto. I think he's smart. Why risk saying something about Price or Dusty that the media can twist and contort to stir up drama?
Phillips plays a lot when hurt. He has fire and wants to win. He took responsiblity and said the team choked this year, as opposed to just shrugging things off and saying "oh well, we did win 90 games, that's pretty good"..
Last edited by REDREAD; 10-25-2013 at 03:20 PM.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Apologize for pushing this thread off topic perhaps, but I have to disagree with your quoted part above. In my opinion, Joey Votto has given some of the most thoughtful, non cliché laden interviews I've heard, certainly from Reds players and if not in most of professional sports. He may not have the outward charisma or energy of a Phillips, but he doesn't rattle off trite non-answers during interviews very often.
Please resume...
Edit- I see you may have just been referring to Votto speaking (or not) on the Dusty firing, Price hiring instead of commenting broadly. If so, my mistake.
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REDREAD (10-28-2013)
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
But what did they do pre cell phones? They did silly things, like playing pranks on assistant coaches and they hit on girls in the stands. They goofed off and acted like the grownup children they are.
I am somewhat uncomfortable with the targeting of Phillips for his outspoken ways and his willingness to wear his emotions and his opinions on his sleeve. I'm reminded of similar reactions to other players, Davis and astonishingly one of the Reds most loyal players ever, Barry Larkin, who were received rather coolly in Cincinnati, when Pete Rose, one of the biggest idiots to come out of Cincinnati sports remains a hometown hero. It's hard to separate color from the equation and I don't mean to accuse anyone of it here, but as a long time Reds fan, it's tough to deny that players have not always been held to the same standard.
Honestly, with Votto I occasionally worry that he is a little too cerebral. Sometimes a guy just needs to channel his inner Lenny Dykstra; maybe Joey could benefit a little from getting his head clear and taking some whacks. See the ball, hit the ball, you know?
Next Reds manager, second shooter. --Confirmed on Redszone.
From MLBtraderumors:
* "It's no surprise that Pablo Sandoval's name that been floated in trade rumors, MLB.com's Chris Haft writes. Sandoval will hit free agency after the 2014 season and the Giants have questions about the Panda's consistency at the plate and his physical conditioning. Haft opines that Sandoval would draw a lot of attention on the trade market and he could be dealt for starting pitching or perhaps a second baseman (as Marco Scutaro would take over at third base)."
I know some really don't like him. But, it would free up long term cash for Choo. Plus, he's 27 and on the verge of free agency. If there would ever be a year to get into shape for Pablo it would be 2014. Plus, you could keep Frazier for left or as a super utility role if Ludwick plays like it's 2012.
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I'd take Panda in a heartbeat if I thought he could could lose 30 pounds and keep it off, and not be subject to fall into a diabetic coma at any time during a game.
I hope we are basing this roasting session on more than one poster who knew a guy who knew a girl who allegedly received a Twitter message from BP's ACCOUNT during a game
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