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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Tom Verducci today discusses teams with the worst performance at particular positions last year, mostly based on offense.

    The Blue Jays are listed for second base in the AL and the recommendation is a trade for Phillips.

    Phillips in a deal for Bautista seems like a fairly obvious trade. Not sure who else would have to be involved.

    I could see the Jays insisting on Bailey. I could see the Reds insisting on Jays taking Ludwick's contract. I could also see the Reds insisting on a top prospect and another decent MLB player.

    I could see the Reds wanting Brett Lawrie who is the scrappy type player that might help energize the team, although not sure he is a better fit than Frazier. Wonder if Lawrie plays second. I could see the Blue Jays being interested in Hanigan.

    Rasmus would seem a bit much because the Jays would be really cleaning house. Reds would want him if not signing Choo.

    Point is there seems to be a good trade fit between these clubs starting off with Bautista and Phillips, as has been discussed before.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Quote Originally Posted by swaisuc View Post
    I don't like this particular trade, but I think it's curious that the board seems 100% fine with letting Choo (a bigger piece of the 2013 team than BP) walk for a draft pick, but make comments like your B when it comes to Phillips.

    If we're OK with letting one or the other go for nothing due to money, why not Phillips?
    I see your point, but Choo leaving is beyond the Reds' control.
    I am sure the Reds will make Choo a reasonable offer, but Choo is going to shop himself and probably take the most $$, and I don't blame him.

    Phillips is signed through next year at a reasonable price. There's no need or urgency to let Phillips go for nothing. If we're trying to win in 2014, we need Phillips or a very good return for Phillips in a trade.. Botching a Phillips trade could be a contributing factor in missing the playoffs next year.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Tom Verducci today discusses teams with the worst performance at particular positions last year, mostly based on offense.

    The Blue Jays are listed for second base in the AL and the recommendation is a trade for Phillips.

    Phillips in a deal for Bautista seems like a fairly obvious trade. Not sure who else would have to be involved.

    I could see the Jays insisting on Bailey. I could see the Reds insisting on Jays taking Ludwick's contract. I could also see the Reds insisting on a top prospect and another decent MLB player.

    I could see the Reds wanting Brett Lawrie who is the scrappy type player that might help energize the team, although not sure he is a better fit than Frazier. Wonder if Lawrie plays second. I could see the Blue Jays being interested in Hanigan.

    Rasmus would seem a bit much because the Jays would be really cleaning house. Reds would want him if not signing Choo.

    Point is there seems to be a good trade fit between these clubs starting off with Bautista and Phillips, as has been discussed before.
    Lawrie played a smattering of games at 2B last season (6, I think), and I see from his stats that he started out as second sacker in the minors, moving to 3rd in his third season.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    I could see the Reds wanting Brett Lawrie who is the scrappy type player that might help energize the team, although not sure he is a better fit than Frazier.
    Agreed, though since Lawrie is Canadian the Blue Jays aren't likely to move him. I do remember the year he was drafted the Reds were rumored to like him.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    I do remember the year he was drafted the Reds were rumored to like him.
    Yes, but remember that was still the scouting department that liked him, and they are now far removed from this decision. He was a very impressive 18 year old with the bat.

    As far as his defense goes...he's pretty awful in the field from what I can tell. Anyone seen him play significant time?

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    As far as his defense goes...he's pretty awful in the field from what I can tell. Anyone seen him play significant time?
    He's pretty much universally considered a plus defender at 3B. I've seen a fair bit of him and he's got some range, quick reactions and a solid arm. The odd thing about Lawrie is his bat was supposed to be a sure thing and his defense was the question mark. It's turned out opposite that the past two seasons.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Something to ponder while we wait for news on the 40 man roster.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/1...ers-twins.html


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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Interesting coincidence

    Probably all it is, I do not see a fit with the white sox.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    What would the ChiSox be able to put on the table. Addison Reed? Alejandro De Aza? They don't have prospects.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Avisail Garcia is a decent left field prospect.

    Other than that all I can think of is a 3 team trade.

    Seems rather unlikely though, I am guessing Bphil is just going to chicago to chase tail.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    They have a 23 year old SS that has great plate discipline in AAA, I wonder what he's about.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Take it FWIW:

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    He's pretty much universally considered a plus defender at 3B. I've seen a fair bit of him and he's got some range, quick reactions and a solid arm. The odd thing about Lawrie is his bat was supposed to be a sure thing and his defense was the question mark. It's turned out opposite that the past two seasons.
    Sounds like another 3B we know...
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Brandon Phillips is very available

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    What would the ChiSox be able to put on the table. Addison Reed? Alejandro De Aza? They don't have prospects.
    Probably on an island, but I wouldn't mind Reed at closer if the plan is Chapman in the rotation.


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