CoachBombay (10-07-2013),Tom Servo (10-07-2013),WildcatFan (10-08-2013)
Please be true
2015 Attendance 2-1 (4/6, 4/7,4/24)
2014 Attendance 1-3 (3/31, 4/12, 8/14)
2013 Attendance: 6-0 (4/3, 4/16, 4/17, 8/3, 8/21, 9/7)
Much ado about nothing. Who isn't 'available"?
BlackPete Ibold (10-07-2013)
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Brutus (10-07-2013)
I agree that you don't move Phillips as a salary dump - you don't do that with any of our frontline talent. If you can bring top-line talent in return for and aging 2B with a sizeable salary then by all means do it. If you don't get what you want, just hold onto him. I think now is time to sell relatively high on BP if you can immprove the club. Selling him before he becomes a 10-5 vet is another reason I'd move him.
I don´t have any evidence obviously but I do believe that his style is more loved by some fans than it is in the clubhouse with his teammates...
his style of talking and his character is different to most of the guys on the team.. votto is a professional and said to the media that bp´s comments were not a big deal for him, but I doubt that bp and votto have a good relationship
bp had some bad comments in the past, his offence is on a steady decline since allstar break 2012 and his d-range went down aswell...
=> performance went down, he had more problems off the field and as most guys said, there were clubhouse issue´s (=> getting rid of some players and some big names should make the other players think)
I wish we could trade that fat beat reporter instead.
BP is a phenomenal defensive 2nd baseman, and one of my favorite Reds.
I think it would be a mistake to get rid of him.
There are no hunting accidents...It's called kharma.
That doesn't mean anything to the average fan. All they care about is that he produces and he signs autographs and interacts with fans on Twitter. I'm not saying BP is irreplaceable but the Reds could do with more players who interacts with the fans like he does. Evidently the advertisers think he can hock their products pretty well. Personality wise, this club would be awful boring without Brandon.
I'll guarantee you that if BP is still around at RedsFest, he'll be one of the most popular - if not the most - popular players there. I certainly hope the Reds don't go back to their way of getting rid of outspoken players. And Brandon is not outspoken in the way that players used to be outspoken like Dick Allen or Bill Lee or Reggie Jackson or even Hanley Ramirez who basically went into Operation Shutdown till he could get out of Miami. Brandon is pretty vanilla compared to those guys.
The biggest question remains, though: Are the Reds looking to replace BP with a player of similar salary but different skills (like an Ethier), or are the Reds looking to dump BP for B or C level prospects and reinvest that money in Choo or extending Latos/Bailey...
I'd have to assume that the first option would be easier to achieve -- I think the Dodgers would do that in a heartbeat, but Reds would need a salary offset like adding Ludwick or getting $$ back.
As for the second option, it would all come down to how the Reds rate other clubs not top prospects and just how successful the Reds would be reinvesting that money. Recall, Joey Votto was once well down our prospect list, with guys like Bruce and others held in more regard by other teams. Maybe Walt has some guys he feels that can help restock the organization that are undervalued by their current clubs.
But option 2 would certainly create the most controversy, and risk. Fans would be rightfully upset at a pure salary dump with no corresponding move like signing Choo.
IF BP does get traded, Walt will be playing serious big boy poker.... After going "All in" in 2013, I don't think the Reds can sit out or even bet less in 2014. This core group (Votto, Bruce, Cueto, Latos IMO) does have an expiration date, nobody wants to waste a year b/c their GM got shutout in the offseason...
mth123 (10-08-2013)
I wouldn't mind trading Phillips if we can get some quality players. Also surprised no one has mentioned Henry Rodriguez taking BP's place for a little while. He hit slightly above BP in avg and OBPs in Louisville.
Red in Chicago (10-07-2013)
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