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    Re: Paul O'Neill's popularity

    I am not endorsing him for manager, but I thought he was made a scape-goat here and should not have been. Part of it from booth, part of it from the manager's office, fans picked up on it. Was so happy for him he got away from here and ended up thriving, shockingly in NYC where we all assumed the pressure would get to him.

    In my mind's eye, I can still see the throw he unleashed from RF to nail, I think, Bonilla, at 3b in one of the early 1990 NLCS games. Awesome baseball.

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    Re: Paul O'Neill's popularity

    Why was he was so popular with Reds fans and for that matter Yankees fans, he cared about winning!

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    Right. Because none of the other players cared about winning?
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    Re: Paul O'Neill's popularity

    It's because he was on an episode of Seinfeld. Everyone becomes more popular once they were on Seinfeld. Just ask Keith Hernandez.

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    Re: Paul O'Neill's popularity

    O'Neill was an average player for the Reds.

    Goes to New York and he's suddenly a baseball deity.

    That's why I don't like him. He never showed anything like that here....i'm not sure how he could have been misused, he had plenty of at bats and didn't do much with them.

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    Anyone who has listened to him do games, how is he on the whole analytical movement?
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    Re: Paul O'Neill's popularity

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    O'Neill was an average player for the Reds.

    Goes to New York and he's suddenly a baseball deity.

    That's why I don't like him. He never showed anything like that here....i'm not sure how he could have been misused, he had plenty of at bats and didn't do much with them.
    I think Reds fan like him because of his success in New York, they forget what kind of player he was here
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsfanmia View Post
    I think Reds fan like him because of his success in New York, they forget what kind of player he was here
    I know I'm in the minority- I don't wish success for Red's players with any other teams but the Reds.

    But with that dreaded franchise, especially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    First, I've been talking Price as the future manager after Dusty left for a long time. That's really just an aside - but my first choice would be him.

    That said, you pretty much nail O'Neill. I assumed when he was traded to New York that he would get eaten alive. Instead? He thrived, as you note. I remember reading towards the end of his career that he was among the top 5 Yankees in some category for right-handed hitters and was surprised. I'm sorry I can't remember what it was, but it clearly showed he was among some of the pantheon of good hitters for that team. He really found a home in NYC and became a star there. I wish he could have been that here.
    Maybe I am reading this incorrectly, but that would be a suprise. Paul O'Neill hit from the left side.
    Fun fact. O'Neill's high in stolen bases was 22. He was 38 at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Right. Because none of the other players cared about winning?
    It didn't look like it,did it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    I know I'm in the minority- I don't wish success for Red's players with any other teams but the Reds.

    But with that dreaded franchise, especially.
    I never liked him with the a Reds, I was a Tracy Jones guy. He always had good games when I went, just to torment me.
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    Re: Paul O'Neill's popularity

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    O'Neill was an average player for the Reds.

    Goes to New York and he's suddenly a baseball deity.

    That's why I don't like him. He never showed anything like that here....i'm not sure how he could have been misused, he had plenty of at bats and didn't do much with them.
    I was pretty young (junior high) so I may be wrong here but I thought the narrative was that Lou wanted O'Neill to pull the ball and use his power while the Yanks just let him be a line-drive hitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    Maybe I am reading this incorrectly, but that would be a suprise. Paul O'Neill hit from the left side.
    Fun fact. O'Neill's high in stolen bases was 22. He was 38 at the time.
    I'm sorry. I was going from memory and didn't double check which side he hit from. I just remember being impressed he was among some elite players in whatever the stat it was.
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    Re: Paul O'Neill's popularity

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfanmia View Post
    I never liked him with the a Reds, I was a Tracy Jones guy. He always had good games when I went, just to torment me.
    I wasn't crazy about either Jones or O'Neil. I was a Kal Daniels guy.

    Although, I do think Paul O'Neil would be a good candidate to at least talk to about a managing job. I have no clue if he would be a good manager, but I think he is worth talking to about the possibilities.

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    Re: Paul O'Neill's popularity

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    I thought he was made a scape-goat here and should not have been. Part of it from booth, part of it from the manager's office, fans picked up on it.
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