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Paul is a nice bench bat, but is defensively lacking. (Would anyone really want to start Paul in RF if Bruce needed a day off?)
DRob could take Heisey's place as the backup CF, but then you're looking at an offensive downgrade.
Heisey is one of those bench players that plays defense pretty darn good and hits better than most defensive specialists. That gives him some value.
I would not nontender Heisey. Sign him and keep looking for better OF depth.
Entering 2014 with BHam and DRob as the only guys that can play CF does not seem particularly wise.
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His OPS+ in 2012 was 90.
Add in the injuries, the wear and tear, I wouldn't expect too much.
I just have this odd notion that if the Reds want to have a deeper lineup of good hitters they need to add some good hitters. If every position is set, well, I guess we'll bank on turnarounds across the board.
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With the discussions of Heisey and Hanigan, I'm thinking we're not going to have to deal with those specifically except for what the costs for 2014 will be. My guess is, as we have for several years, we will not actually have an arbitration hearing. And I don't think we're going to need to make space on the 40 man that something needs to be done with either player in that regard. I'm guessing that we'll have room for adding the players we need and still have some room for FA additions.
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Of outfielders with at least 150 PAs this year (thus including backups) there were 66 with a .330 OBP or higher. That number goes up to 71 if you drop to .329. The number is 79 if you drop to .326 (none were exactly .325).
I'm sure many of them can share CF, like Choo did, even if listed as corner men.
It isn't only Dejesus and it's not that rare for a starter or bench player to OBP .330.
Last edited by Kc61; 10-17-2013 at 12:37 PM.
This is a weird roster for next year, for sure.
I really have no interest in Saltalamacchia or McCann or any other catcher that will cost 9+ million and a 1st round draft choice. I'm not up for that at all.
I have no interest in Ruiz and his PED enhanced stats.
I fully think the team needs to move on from Hanigan completely if they believe in Mesoraco. They will never know what they have in him if he is on the short end of a platoon, or starting less than 4/5 of the time. Now, if they don't believe in Mesoraco, then they should trade him, and look to sign someone like Navarro or Pierzinski and move on.
As for the OF next season, I think the locks are Bruce-RF, Ludwick-LF, and Hamilton-on the 25 man roster.(Jocketty's words we're to ease him in to the starting roll) After that I think the other two spots offer the Reds a chance to upgrade and be flexible in the offseason.
Possibilities like McLouth, De Jesus are obvious, but there will be lesser known or unexpected options to emerge at later times. Maybe names like Denorfia, Bonifacio, Cain, Torres, Nava, Crisp and many others.
I'd like to see how Heisey does under a different hitting coach. It seemed to me that when he came to the majors there was an attempt to have him pull more in order to fit a power profile for LF'er.
To me, Choo's gone, Hamilton is the CF'er, keep Heisey over Robinson, and look for a veteran bat who has experience on a winning team for LF backup, pinch hitter. If Choo happens to stay, then determine if Hamilton stays with the big club during spring training. Best case, Hamilton stays, Choo moves to LF and Ludwick fills the 4/5 OF position. Improves both the offense and defense - adds flexibility and depth - provides legitimate pinch hitter.
It also seems to me that we are spending too much time trying to figure out how to get a marginal upgrade to the 4/5 OF spot and save a few $K.
I'd bet the farm that if WJ were inclined to list his off season priorities, replacing Heisey would not make the top ten.
I wonder if the Reds could get Grandal back?
Anyone know what impact ACL surgery has had on catchers?
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Brian McCann is only 30???! It feels like he's been around forever.
Orioles need pitching.....maybe we can send them something for Matt Weiters (who's rumored to be on the trade market this off season).
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I could trade with the Orioles....I would propose this deal:
Reds trade: Homer Bailey, Devin Mesoraco, and Logan Ondrusek
Orioles trade: Matt Wieters and Darren O'Day
I think it works for both sides, the O's get a #2 pitcher, and a young backstop to replace Wieters, with Ondrusek being added as a salary dump.
The Reds get an offensive upgrade to their lineup, with Hanigan being the backup, while O'Day helps to shore up middle relief, and the Reds get a little wiggle room to find a #5 starter
The Reds need to get what they need and step one is to clear the dead wood and not let roster clutter stand in the way. I've always liked Hanigan, but he's 34 and really has been declining at the plate since 2010 and at his age, with a rising salary and a declining OPS he's bordering on roster clutter at this point. If the Reds had a 135 game per year established starter and needed a glove man to play caddy for cheap, Hanigan would be fine in that role and maybe some team in that boat would want him. The Reds need more. They won't get Johnny Bench, but have to do better than Bill Plummer at this point. I wouldn't let the possibility of getting some AA suspect in return stand in the way.
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