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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    Phillips, Ludwick, Bailey to TOR for Reyes
    Sign Choo 17mil/yr 6 years
    Sign Granderson 15mil/yr 3 years
    Don't offer Arroyo
    Sign Salty 10mil/yr 3 years

    Choo LF
    Reyes SS
    Votto
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    Granderson CF
    Salty / Mez
    Cozart 2b

    Latos
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    Leake
    Cingrani
    Chapman or FA
    Stephenson

    I think payroll would need to be 120 million or less.

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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    Can I like my own post? LAWD.

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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    Why would Toronto do that trade?
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Why would Toronto do that trade?
    They need help at 2b, LF, and SP. They may want Leake or Chapman instead of Bailey so they have 2 years instead of 1. But Leake is still affordable and Chapman may need to remain in the bullpen. It creates a problem for them at SS, though. Reyes is injury prone and maybe once they've upgraded 3 spots they can settle on a more steady SS.

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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Why would Toronto do that trade?
    And when did this forum turn into DodgersZone?
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    And when did this forum turn into DodgersZone?
    The Dodgers wish they had Votto to build around for the next few years. But if the Reds are willing to double down, this illustrates how quickly they can become an amazing team with just 10 or 20 million more dollars, depending on who is moved.

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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    Bailey 9 m
    Leake 6 m
    Ludwick 8.5 m
    Phillips 11 m

    total 34.5 m

    I don't think Broxton and Marshall can be moved.

    But that's a lot of coin to work with if it's moved properly.

    And after 2016 a ton of cash would come off the books across the board for the Reds.

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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    Bailey 9 m
    Leake 6 m
    Ludwick 8.5 m
    Phillips 11 m

    total 34.5 m

    I don't think Broxton and Marshall can be moved.

    But that's a lot of coin to work with if it's moved properly.

    And after 2016 a ton of cash would come off the books across the board for the Reds.
    You only proposed trading one of the SP. And Ludwick is just as untradeable as the relievers...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    You only proposed trading one of the SP. And Ludwick is just as untradeable as the relievers...
    You're right. I was just looking at a batch of players that can free payroll up. Revised, I would say Phillips, Chapman, Ludwick for Reyes. Maybe that doesn't get it done, but Chapman is a premium talent, so I think it's closer.

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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    You're right. I was just looking at a batch of players that can free payroll up. Revised, I would say Phillips, Chapman, Ludwick for Reyes. Maybe that doesn't get it done, but Chapman is a premium talent, so I think it's closer.
    I do not think that they would want to move Reyes. He may be overpaid and injury-proned, but an offensive SS is hard to come by.

    I think that the Jays would be more willing to do a trade that involved Bautista. Some of their blogs, forums, and articles suggest that the fans have grown tired of him and want him gone.
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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    I could see a trade with the Jays involving BP and Jose Bautista and others on both sides. Doubtful on Reyes.

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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    The Blue Jays had a payroll of 120 million last year, and they have 110 million in guaranteed contracts for 2014. It's doubtful they'd be able to take on that much payroll.

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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    Just to keep this up to date - the Reds released Corky Miller and Greg Reynolds, both of whom elected free agency. They claimed Pedro Beato, RHP, off waivers and added him to the 40 man roster.
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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    http://reds.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=cin

    Cincinnati Reds Active Roster

    # Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB

    61 Bronson Arroyo R-R 6'4" 195 Feb 24, 1977
    34 Homer Bailey R-R 6'4" 230 May 3, 1986
    Pedro Beato R-R 6'6" 230 Oct 27, 1986
    51 Jonathan Broxton R-R 6'4" 310 Jun 16, 1984
    54 Aroldis Chapman L-L 6'4" 205 Feb 28, 1988
    58 Nick Christiani R-R 6'0" 190 Jul 17, 1987
    52 Tony Cingrani L-L 6'4" 215 Jul 5, 1989
    Carlos Contreras R-R 5'11" 205 Jan 8, 1991
    67 Daniel Corcino R-R 5'11" 205 Aug 26, 1990
    47 Johnny Cueto R-R 5'11" 215 Feb 15, 1986
    30 Zach Duke L-L 6'2" 210 Apr 19, 1983
    Ismael Guillon L-L 6'2" 218 Feb 13, 1992
    60 J.J. Hoover R-R 6'3" 225 Aug 13, 1987
    55 Mat Latos R-R 6'6" 245 Dec 9, 1987
    44 Mike Leake R-R 5'10" 185 Nov 12, 1987
    63 Sam LeCure R-R 6'0" 205 May 4, 1984
    45 Sean Marshall L-L 6'7" 225 Aug 30, 1982
    40 Nick Masset R-R 6'5" 235 May 17, 1982
    66 Logan Ondrusek R-R 6'8" 230 Feb 13, 1985
    43 Manny Parra L-L 6'3" 205 Oct 30, 1982
    46 Curtis Partch R-R 6'5" 240 Feb 13, 1987
    31 Alfredo Simon R-R 6'6" 265 May 8, 1981

    # Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB

    29 Ryan Hanigan R-R 6'0" 210 Aug 16, 1980
    39 Devin Mesoraco R-R 6'1" 230 Jun 19, 1988

    # Infielders B/T Ht Wt DOB

    2 Zack Cozart R-R 6'0" 195 Aug 12, 1985
    21 Todd Frazier R-R 6'3" 220 Feb 12, 1986
    9 Jack Hannahan L-R 6'2" 210 Mar 4, 1980
    3 Cesar Izturis S-R 5'9" 180 Feb 10, 1980
    4 Brandon Phillips R-R 6'0" 200 Jun 28, 1981
    36 Henry Rodriguez S-R 5'8" 200 Feb 9, 1990
    50 Neftali Soto R-R 6'1" 215 Feb 28, 1989
    19 Joey Votto L-R 6'2" 220 Sep 10, 1983

    # Outfielders B/T Ht Wt DOB

    32 Jay Bruce L-L 6'3" 215 Apr 3, 1987
    17 Shin-Soo Choo L-L 5'11" 205 Jul 13, 1982
    6 Billy Hamilton S-R 6'0" 160 Sep 9, 1990
    28 Chris Heisey R-R 6'1" 210 Dec 14, 1984
    48 Ryan Ludwick R-L 6'2" 215 Jul 13, 1978
    23 Donald Lutz L-R 6'3" 250 Feb 6, 1989
    26 Xavier Paul L-R 5'9" 205 Feb 25, 1985
    15 Derrick Robinson S-L 5'11" 190 Sep 28, 1987
    77 Yorman Rodriguez R-R 6'3" 197 Aug 15, 1992

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    Re: 40 Man Roster - 2014

    Just an update - here's the link again to the spreadsheet for the roster and known salaries at this point: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...gw&output=html

    We have the addition of Pena and Beato.

    Here are some upcoming dates that likely impact the roster as we move to the winter meetings:

    December 2
    Tender deadline

    December 5
    Last date to request outright waivers to assign player prior to Rule 5 Draft

    December 9
    Last date to outright a player prior to Rule 5 Draft


    The roster currently stands at 36 players.
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