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    Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Sources: Leyland stepping down as #Tigers manager. Told team after end of ALCS. Team has called news conference for 11:30 AM ET.
    Per Ken Rosenthal on Twitter
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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Told that Leyland informed #Tigers players after end of ALCS that it was time for someone younger to do the job. He is 68.
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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Is it even worth the time for a phone call or is this in effect his retirement?

    I would assume retirement.
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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfan30 View Post
    Is it even worth the time for a phone call or is this in effect his retirement?

    I would assume retirement.
    Jim Leyland is a pale Dusty Baker

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Jim Leyland is a pale Dusty Baker
    Don't compare Leyland with Baker.
    Contrary to his looks of a grumpy old-school baseball man, he's a sabermetric-minded manager who used Cabrera as a #2 hitter.

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Don't compare Leyland with Baker.
    Contrary to his looks of a grumpy old-school baseball man, he's a sabermetric-minded manager who used Cabrera as a #2 hitter.
    I did notice that he switched his lineup in an elimination game with Hunter leading off and they won. Dusty would never do that.
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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by BungleBengals View Post
    I did notice that he switched his lineup in an elimination game with Hunter leading off and they won. Dusty would never do that.
    And then he immediately reverted back to the old lineup because he "got Jackson going."

    Dusty switched his lineup often this season, even batting Frazier 2nd many times because of his OBP. doesn't mean he is all of a sudden a sabr-minded genius. Dusty and Leyland do stuff like this to "shake things up."

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Don't compare Leyland with Baker.
    Contrary to his looks of a grumpy old-school baseball man, he's a sabermetric-minded manager who used Cabrera as a #2 hitter.
    False. He did that one game, and it had nothing to do with sabrmetrics, he did to move Jackson down in the lineup to "get him going". Once Jackson got 3 hits in that game he immediately moved Jackson back to the lead off spot (exactly what Dusty would do) If that were the case why did he immediately revert to batting Cabrera 3rd? This may be true if he ever did it before, but this was literally the first time.

    Why does he insist on playing Don Kelly every opportunity he gets? Why did he take Jhonny Peralta out of the game in the 6th inning? Why does he consistently allow his best pitchers to throw 120+ pitches? Max Schzerzer had 17 (!) starts this year where he threw over 107 pitches. Why did he not pitch his closer in the 7th or 8th inning on Saturday? He once gave Edgar Renteria 550 PA's even though he had a .699 OPS because "he was a veteran."

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    False. He did that one game
    It's actually three games(4,5 and 6)

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Don't compare Leyland with Baker.
    Contrary to his looks of a grumpy old-school baseball man, he's a sabermetric-minded manager who used Cabrera as a #2 hitter.
    I just looked it up to poke fun at Brian Kenny. Leyland's teams had 1,320 sac bunts for his career.

    --His Pittsburgh teams led the league in that stat a couple of times and were in the top half of the league 9 of 11 seasons IIRC.

    --Detroit's AL rank in sac bunts during Leyland's tenure: 2, 12, 9, 2, 7, 3, 3, 6.

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
    I just looked it up to poke fun at Brian Kenny. Leyland's teams had 1,320 sac bunts for his career.

    --His Pittsburgh teams led the league in that stat a couple of times and were in the top half of the league 9 of 11 seasons IIRC.

    --Detroit's AL rank in sac bunts during Leyland's tenure: 2, 12, 9, 2, 7, 3, 3, 6.
    In his tenure

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
    I just looked it up to poke fun at Brian Kenny. Leyland's teams had 1,320 sac bunts for his career.

    --His Pittsburgh teams led the league in that stat a couple of times and were in the top half of the league 9 of 11 seasons IIRC.

    --Detroit's AL rank in sac bunts during Leyland's tenure: 2, 12, 9, 2, 7, 3, 3, 6.
    Wasn't that why he batted Jay Bell 2nd in Pittsburgh so long?
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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    It's time, IMO. They need a change. They really should have won it all last year and/or this year.

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Dusty Baker anyone? :-)
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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Too bad he's calling it a career (I would assume....he's 68).

    I'd love to have him kicking our Reds in the rear end.


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