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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    False. He did that one game
    It's actually three games(4,5 and 6)

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Don't compare Leyland with Baker.
    Contrary to his looks of a grumpy old-school baseball man, he's a sabermetric-minded manager who used Cabrera as a #2 hitter.
    I just looked it up to poke fun at Brian Kenny. Leyland's teams had 1,320 sac bunts for his career.

    --His Pittsburgh teams led the league in that stat a couple of times and were in the top half of the league 9 of 11 seasons IIRC.

    --Detroit's AL rank in sac bunts during Leyland's tenure: 2, 12, 9, 2, 7, 3, 3, 6.

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    It's actually three games(4,5 and 6)
    Ah, I see. Regardless he did not do it because of sabrmetrics. He did it to "shake things up."

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
    I just looked it up to poke fun at Brian Kenny. Leyland's teams had 1,320 sac bunts for his career.

    --His Pittsburgh teams led the league in that stat a couple of times and were in the top half of the league 9 of 11 seasons IIRC.

    --Detroit's AL rank in sac bunts during Leyland's tenure: 2, 12, 9, 2, 7, 3, 3, 6.
    In his tenure

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Leyland isn't Baker. Leyland won a World Series.

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    I wonder which job is the most appealing.

    I saw on Twitter that even John Fay believes that the Nats job is more appealing that the Reds. I wonder which is more appealing, Detroit or Cincy?
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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by BungleBengals View Post
    I wonder which job is the most appealing.

    I saw on Twitter that even John Fay believes that the Nats job is more appealing that the Reds. I wonder which is more appealing, Detroit or Cincy?
    It's pretty darn close, but the Reds have a bullpen....and Prince Fielder can't slide, so there's that.

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Paraphrasing the best line from his presser:

    "My wife and I were in church and I said, 'I just let one of my silent puffers, what should I do?' She said put a new battery in your hearing aid."

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Jim Bowden ESPN article:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/the-...e/post?id=8052

    However, I think the Tigers job is the best of the three, as they have strongest talent base for the next two years. The Nationals are right behind them in terms of talent, but they need someone who can come in with a long-term outlook, while the Reds lag behind just a little bit as their roster isn't quite as good as the Tigers' or Nationals'.
    Therefore, if I'm Dombrowski, the first two calls I make are to Dusty Baker and Charlie Manuel, to see if they want a two-year deal. Baker is just four years younger than Leyland, and Manuel is actually a year older, but both have made it clear they want to manage again.

    Baker's last two years in Cincinnati ended with a thud, but it can't be forgotten that he made the playoffs both years, and he knows how to handle a veteran club. This Tigers roster is very similar to the one that Manuel had over the last few years in Philly, a lot of superstars on the back end of their prime years, so I'd be confident he'd be in his element. As an added bonus, Manuel recently won a World Series, in 2008.
    Also mentioned the same names that have popped up with our vacancy (LaRussa, Torre, Martinez, etc.)
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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by BungleBengals View Post
    Jim Bowden ESPN article:
    You lost me there-- I didn't realize ESPN was now in the science fiction business.
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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Tigers job is easily better than the Reds job. Bigger payroll/top 5 market and the best starting rotation in baseball.

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Tigers job is easily better than the Reds job. Bigger payroll/top 5 market and the best starting rotation in baseball.
    But you have to live in Detroit.
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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by Yachtzee View Post
    But you have to live in Detroit.
    Suburbs outside of Detroit are very nice.

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Suburbs outside of Detroit are very nice.
    This is true.

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    Re: Leyland stepping down as Tigers Manager

    Its funny to read posts by Tiger fans on other boards calling for Kirk Gibson, Alan Trammell or Lou Whitaker to replace him. Reds fans are not alone in wanting their manager to be from their glorious past.
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