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    Yankees’ top 5 free-agent targets

    http://nypost.com/2013/10/21/yankees...-agent-targets
    Yankees brass convenes this week for organizational meetings. Clouding the issue of what the Yankees can do in the free-agent market this offseason are what free agent Robinson Cano will do and how long Alex Rodriguez will be suspended.

    But here are five players who emerged from recent scouting meetings as among the Yankees targets, as reported by George A. King III:
    1. Masahiro Tanaka
    A scout said the soon-to-be 25-year-old – who had a 49-9 record the last three seasons in Japan — is better than Yu Darvish. He could command a $60 million contract as well as a $60 million posting fee that would not count against the salary cap.

    2. Shin-Soo Choo
    The do-it-all outfielder is coming off a season in which he hit .285, posted a .423 on-base (second-best in the NL), hit 21 homers and stole 20 bases. He turns 32 next season. His agent is the hard-driving Scott Boras.

    3. Brian McCann
    The seven-time All-Star has hit between 18 and 24 home runs in each of his eight full big league seasons. Played in 102 games in 2013 after returning from offseason shoulder surgery and showed his fiery side in dustups with Jose Fernandez and Carlos Gomez. His price tag may be in the $15 million range for at least four seasons.

    4. Paul Maholm
    The 31-year-old southpaw is a National League lifer (Pirates, Cubs, Braves), and has made at least 26 starts in each of the past eight seasons.

    5. Stephen Drew
    A solid defender at shortstop, he hit 13 home runs this season with a .253 average (only .196 against lefties). The Red Sox could extend him the $14.1 million qualifying offer, which entitles them to draft-pick compensation.

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    Re: Yankees’ top 5 free-agent targets

    They will probably sign all 5 and Cano. ARod will be suspended so the Yanks will have a shopping spree.
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    Re: Yankees’ top 5 free-agent targets

    Quote Originally Posted by BungleBengals View Post
    They will probably sign all 5 and Cano. ARod will be suspended so the Yanks will have a shopping spree.
    If A-Rod is suspended, do the Yankees get insurance money back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeThierry View Post
    If A-Rod is suspended, do the Yankees get insurance money back?
    I read if he is suspended this year, they will save something like $30M+ alone.
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    Re: Yankees’ top 5 free-agent targets

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeThierry View Post
    If A-Rod is suspended, do the Yankees get insurance money back?
    No insurance money, they simply don't have to pay him during the suspension

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    Re: Yankees’ top 5 free-agent targets

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    No insurance money, they simply don't have to pay him during the suspension
    Ok, thank you for the information.
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    Re: Yankees’ top 5 free-agent targets

    http://nypost.com/2013/10/20/yankees...ano-up-in-air/
    A recent meeting of the Yankees’ pro scouting department included discussions of free agents and potential trade candidates.

    Among the free agents on the Yankees’ radar are Japanese right-hander Masahiro Tanaka, Reds outfielder Sin-Soo Choo, Braves left-hander Paul Maholm, Braves catcher Brian McCann and Red Sox shortstop Stephen Drew.

    Of that group, the Yankees have targeted Tanaka as a priority. The posting process can’t begin until after Nov. 1. Though Tanaka, considered the best pitcher in Japan, could command a contract in the neighborhood of $60 million for five years, the posting fee — which will likely cost upwards of $60 million — does not count against the salary cap.
    Is Tanaka really that good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    His stats- though they have not been updated for a few weeks.
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/ja...d=tanaka003mas

    up to date stats here- he ended the year 24-0, 1.27 ERA.
    http://bis.npb.or.jp/eng/players/11215114.html

    Bit of a scouting report
    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/1...ue-tanaka.html
    King spoke with several executives who guessed that the posting fee for Tanaka could go as high as $60MM, but the Yankees aren't overly concerned about that number given the fact that the posting fee wouldn't count against their stated desire to get underneath baseball's $189MM luxury tax threshhold. The expected $50-60MM contract that would go along with such a posting fee -- contract totals are usually in the same ballpark as the posting fee -- certainly would.

    King writes that assistant GM Billy Eppler and pro scout/former Mariners manager Don Wakamatsu have both watched Tanaka extensively this season. While the common consensus has been that Tanaka is a lesser prospect than Yu Darvish was prior to joining the Majors, King spoke to a scout who prefers Tanaka to Darvish:

    "He is better than Darvish because he is a strike thrower," the scout said. "Overall, Darvish’s stuff might be a little bit better, but this guy knows how to pitch. He is like Kuroda, he has a lot of guts. He throws four pitches but when it gets to [stone]-cutting time, it’s fastball and splitter."

    Tanaka, who doesn't turn 25 years old until Nov. 1, is 22-0 for the Golden Eagles with a 1.23 ERA. His strikeout rate has dipped slightly from previous seasons, though he still manages nearly eight whiffs per nine innings and has averaged just over one walk per nine innings as well. His splitter is such a wipeout pitch that Baseball America's Ben Badler called it perhaps the best splitter in the world back in late August.
    Very indepth scouting report here:
    http://irfast.blogspot.com/2013/08/m...ng-report.html

    I do want to be clear: these statistical comparisons are the only real similarities between Tanaka and Darvish. Other than that, they are both righties that pitched in Japan that have sliders that they throw a lot. Everything else is different, from body type, mechanics, fastball velocity, pitch selection, etc. Darvish is not a valid comp to Tanaka, other than the fact that they were both really really good in the same league.
    The easiest comp for Tanaka in the Majors is Hiroki Kuroda since they have somewhat similar fastballs, and rely a lot on splits (assuming you call Tanaka's "forkball" a split) and sliders. Obviously they are at totally different moments in their careers (though Kuroda is pitching as effectively, if not more effectively, than he even has), and Kuroda was throwing quite a bit harder at Tanaka's age (he was averaging over 92 MPH in 2008 with the Dodgers at age 33). Iwakuma also seems lazy and racial, but we have to recognize that the pitching style in Japan differs from the pitching style in America, which causes comps that may seem lazy and racial when looking at pitch selection. There aren't many American pitchers who use splitters at all, much less have it as an out pitch. That is why Dan Haren is an interesting American comp, especially Dan Haren's 2009. Haren's slider was a MPH harder, but the fastball and splitter were about the same as Tanaka. It is noteworthy that 2008-2010 Haren was better than Kuroda has been in America (at least by fWAR).
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    Re: Yankees’ top 5 free-agent targets

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    His stats- though they have not been updated for a few weeks.
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/ja...d=tanaka003mas

    up to date stats here- he ended the year 24-0, 1.27 ERA.
    http://bis.npb.or.jp/eng/players/11215114.html

    Bit of a scouting report
    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/1...ue-tanaka.html


    Very indepth scouting report here:
    http://irfast.blogspot.com/2013/08/m...ng-report.html
    Wow, 24-0. Tanaka also throws a forkball like many Japanese pitchers.
    Thanks for the useful information.

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    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/...on-yankee-menu
    BOSTON -- Lots of big names -- including Carlos Beltran, Masahiro Tanaka, Brian McCann and even Shin-Soo Choo -- were discussed at the Yankees organizational meetings over the past couple days.

    The names of Beltran, Tanaka and McCann have been connected to the Yankees before, but Choo is a fairly new one.
    The Yankes are one of the teams committed to new stats and they are admirers of Choo's on-base ability. In his first year batting leadoff for the Reds, he had a .423 on-base percentage, good for second best in the National League to teammate Joey Votto.

    Multiple sources say the Yankees do like Choo very much. Yankees general manager Brian Cashman declined comment abut Choo specifically but noted that outfield isn't their top priority for a team that has many needs. The Yankees have quite the puzzle, as a team that had a $230-million payroll but several big salaries coming off the books and a stated desire to get below $189 million on the payroll.
    The Rangers, Cubs, Astros, Mariners, Phillies, incumbent Reds and Mets are among other teams that may make sense for Choo. Houston could be an interesting surprise entry.

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    Re: Yankees’ top 5 free-agent targets

    It seems that nearly every team FA needs article I've seen mentions Choo. He is going to get paid this offseason. I feel comfortable assuming there's zero chance he's back in Cincinnati next year.
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    5. Stephen Drew
    A solid defender at shortstop, he hit 13 home runs this season with a .253 average (only .196 against lefties). The Red Sox could extend him the $14.1 million qualifying offer, which entitles them to draft-pick compensation.
    If Stephen Drew is that valuable, then what do we have in Cozart?

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