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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    That our front office prefers a sac-fly to a walk concerns me. Any energy spent on changing Joey Votto is time not spent on making guys who are actuallyfailing to do their jobs better.
    I also find it very disturbing the Front Office would seem to question his approach. That he somehow is ill suited for the #3 spot currently.

    Reds 3 hole had higher slugging and more Homeruns than St. Louis or Boston got out of their 3 spots. Worked out well enough for them because they actually have balanced lineups with more than 3 above average players. Votto will see very little to hit as long as that case. Kind of stunning the numbers he did put up with so little balance.

    Boston was dead last with only 12 HR out of 3 spot in lineup.

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    To be fair, Walt was specifically asked about Votto and his approach both times, and he gave an honest answer. It's not like saying this is what he considers important. We have no idea how important Jocketty thinks this is, or how much time and effort he will will place into it.
    So either Jocketty thinks Votto's approach legitimately needs changed, or he's allowing this quite silly (IMO) line of thinking to fester in the mind of the general public by giving it his attention and response.

    Pick your poison: terrible judgement or terrible leadership. Oy vey.

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    I hope Votto ignores everyone. Just play his game.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fil3232 View Post
    So either Jocketty thinks Votto's approach legitimately needs changed, or he's allowing this quite silly (IMO) line of thinking to fester in the mind of the general public by giving it his attention and response.

    Pick your poison: terrible judgement or terrible leadership. Oy vey.


    Lots of times front office types and even players, and coaches will just give generic answers to placate the media, so that the can just go on about their day and not have to go into detail publicly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bengalsown View Post
    From this article:

    http://www.wcpo.com/sports/baseball/...-in-leadership

    I asked Walt Jocketty if Price is up to the task of disabusing Joey of the notion that a base on balls is as beneficial as a run scoring sacrifice fly.

    Walt gave me an emphatic “Yes,” but added, “that is something many more of us in the organization will also try to convey.”
    Let's all keep pretending that Brandon Phillips' attitude, and his light hearted article about "swag", are the main problems of this team.

    Votto's problems are the only one's I consistently hear Jocketty talking about.
    It's a loaded question but I for one still don't understand why people believe one can hit a sac fly on purpose. I also don't understand why a player would deliberately make an out unless he is trying to put down a sacrifice bunt.

    Some of you guys know minor league players. Some may know major league players. If you get a chance, could you talk to them and ask them what is their mindset when there's a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs? Ask them if they are deliberately trying to hit a fly ball or are they trying to get a base hit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PepperJack View Post
    Lots of times front office types and even players, and coaches will just give generic answers to placate the media, so that the can just go on about their day and not have to go into detail publicly.
    I get that, believe me.

    But I don't think this situation, the finger-pointing at Votto specifically, merits placating. Unless it's something Jocketty believes, in which case I agree with others in thinking it's a real problem. Walt can't have it both ways given his responses.

    The true cynic in me thinks attention on Votto is attention not on Walt. Which after his no-show last year may be his intent.

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    It's a loaded question but I for one still don't understand why people believe one can hit a sac fly on purpose. I also don't understand why a player would deliberately make an out unless he is trying to put down a sacrifice bunt.

    Some of you guys know minor league players. Some may know major league players. If you get a chance, could you talk to them and ask them what is their mindset when there's a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs? Ask them if they are deliberately trying to hit a fly ball or are they trying to get a base hit?


    This closest I've heard a player talk about this was during a game in 2010. Chris Dickerson was on the DL(surprise) and was in the booth talking when Bruce came to bat in that situation. The announcers asked Dickerson what Bruce would be trying to do in this spot, and he said that Bruce would be looking for something up, so that he could at least hit a SF. That getting the runner in was all Bruce was supposed to do there.


    Here is the result of the at bat:http://wapc.mlb.com/cin/play/?conten...2Bbruce%2B2010


    You can here Dickerson in the background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    It's a loaded question but I for one still don't understand why people believe one can hit a sac fly on purpose. I also don't understand why a player would deliberately make an out unless he is trying to put down a sacrifice bunt.

    Some of you guys know minor league players. Some may know major league players. If you get a chance, could you talk to them and ask them what is their mindset when there's a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs? Ask them if they are deliberately trying to hit a fly ball or are they trying to get a base hit?
    I don't think the issue is wanting Votto to try to hit fly balls, but not wanting him to be focused on working a walk in those situations. It really comes down to wanting him to be aggressive early in the count, as opposed to waiting for the perfect pitch, and if he doesn't get it, being satisfied with a walk.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PepperJack View Post
    This closest I've heard a player talk about this was during a game in 2010. Chris Dickerson was on the DL(surprise) and was in the booth talking when Bruce came to bat in that situation. The announcers asked Dickerson what Bruce would be trying to do in this spot, and he said that Bruce would be looking for something up, so that he could at least hit a SF. That getting the runner in was all Bruce was supposed to do there.


    Here is the result of the at bat:http://wapc.mlb.com/cin/play/?conten...2Bbruce%2B2010


    You can here Dickerson in the background.
    OK, thanks. Now he said, "At the least" and that works for me. As I've said before, sacrifice flies are happy accidents. You're not trying to make an out as so many believe but you're trying to hit the ball hard so at the very least a run will score and at the very most, multiple runs will score. I doubt they are thinking, "Well, if I hit it 310 feet, the LFer can catch it and a run will score even though I made an out." What if you're 2 runs down? A base hit would accomplish both the dual purposes of getting a run home and avoiding an out.

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    I don't think the issue is wanting Votto to try to hit fly balls, but not wanting him to be focused on working a walk in those situations. It really comes down to wanting him to be aggressive early in the count, as opposed to waiting for the perfect pitch, and if he doesn't get it, being satisfied with a walk.
    Like I said, it's a loaded question. A better question may have been something along the lines of, "I asked Walt Jocketty if Price is up to the task of disabusing Joey of the notion that a base on balls is as beneficial as a run scoring base hit."

    It's still a dumb question but it's less dumb than the original. I don't believe for a minute Votto prefers a walk over getting the bat on the ball to score a run. If someone asks Votto that, I'd like him to ask Walt or Price or whomever how to hit a sacrifice fly much less how to make contact. Because they have all the answers, evidently. Surely they can teach a former MVP and multiple All-Star how to make solid contact.

    I do believe Votto prefers a walk to swinging at a pitch where he may not be able to make solid contact enough to get that run home. Would they prefer he pops it up or strikes out swinging over a walk? Sometimes it's a no-win situation. He walks but doesn't get the run home or he makes a non-productive out. He's a bum either way, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    It's a loaded question but I for one still don't understand why people believe one can hit a sac fly on purpose. I also don't understand why a player would deliberately make an out unless he is trying to put down a sacrifice bunt.

    Some of you guys know minor league players. Some may know major league players. If you get a chance, could you talk to them and ask them what is their mindset when there's a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs? Ask them if they are deliberately trying to hit a fly ball or are they trying to get a base hit?
    I know Joe Morgan has always been on record as saying that the only thing he tries to do in any situation is hit the ball hard. He claims if you do that, in the long run, more good things will happen than bad. I tend to agree with him.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    More gum flapping, and pointing a finger at the best player on the team. The problem with this team does not reside at 1B, or in RF, or really even in the pitching staff(aside from contracts handed to middle relievers).

    6 of the everyday 8 have varying degrees of problems associated with them, and Reds Nation spends time arguing over the length of Superman's cape. Why do people have this burning desire to ask your stars for more?

    I keep hearing Ohio State fans complain about Urban Meyer's clothing, and sideline demeanor, all the guy ever does is win. It strikes me how foolish their arguments are, but in Cincinnati we are still focused on Joey Votto. This is also foolish. Joey Votto is not going anywhere. You have 10 years to boo him for walking and not making an out.

    Maybe, Walt should talk about his criminal disinterest, in improving his team. The only player to appear for another MLB team in a game, on the Reds roster was Zach freaking Duke. Essentially Walt sat around eating Werther's Candy, and playing Sudoku all season.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    After that Walt comment about Sac Flies I would be OK if he were fired tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    I keep hearing Ohio State fans complain about Urban Meyer's clothing, and sideline demeanor, all the guy ever does is win.
    For real? Just goes to show you, no matter how well things are going you can always find something to complain about.
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    So does everyone still believe the old school left when Dusty did?

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    Re: Walt interview (with Cunningham)

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    For real? Just goes to show you, no matter how well things are going you can always find something to complain about.

    I wish it was false
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.


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