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    I hate the Cubs LoganBuck's Avatar
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    Walt Jocketty

    Notice it is without an R in Jocketty. Also after the fiasco of the last month, how confident are you in Walt Jocketty?

    Things considered
    1. Past Performance
    2. Future Performance
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    I am confident in Jocketty all things considered. There are money ramifications, limitations based on the dearth of decent prospects in at AA and especially AAA and some contract concerns but he is as capable, imo, as any GM could be, of working within those limitations. What Cast and the ownership group allow him budget wise will be a big factor, also how hard a line Cast has made about BP's status with the club. I am not entirely optimistic about 2014 but it's not Walt so much as money and the timing of the prospect ladder. I am optimistic about 2015 and beyond.
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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    broxton
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    I dont think the Cards would have done that

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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    Quote Originally Posted by bob jones View Post
    broxton
    ludwick
    ondruszek

    I dont think the Cards would have done that
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    Also next season Jason Motte makes more than any Reds relievers. No Front Office is without moves that did not work out.
    Last edited by RadfordVA; 10-24-2013 at 11:23 AM.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    Quote Originally Posted by bob jones View Post
    broxton
    ludwick
    ondruszek

    I dont think the Cards would have done that
    Sure they would have.
    Cards traded for Rpzensenski or whatever his name was recently (and gave up a starting CF) and then soured on him just this year when he had a rough start.. Rpzensenski was banished to the minors then traded to Cleveland where he flourished. Imagine if something like that happened on the Reds. Plenty of venom directed at management for something like that.

    Cards have signed plenty of veteran relievers that ended up injured or cut.
    That's just the risk you take with relievers. You will have some attrition.
    You fight that with depth, like Broxton. Just think if Parra and Hoover had gotten injured instead of Marshall and Broxton.. Then Walt looks like a genius for having the foresight to sign these guys.

    I don't get the rage over keeping Logan around. He made slightly over 1 million, and was stashed at AAA, and was useful when needed. For the price the Reds paid, they got decent value from Logan.. Naturally, he's not a star, but not a bad guy to have for depth. There's certainly worse pitchers in other teams bullpens..

    Ludwick.. Ok.. you let Ludwick walk. Now you have to find another LF that can hit cleanup for very little money (Ludwick's deal is backloaded).. I guess you'd have to be prepared to trade a top prospect or go fishing for a rehab project like Jason Bay. Ludwick was a good signing, he just got hurt. It's fair to criticize Walt for not making a move to fix LF after Ludwick got hurt, but Ludwick almost OPSed 900 in 2012.. Why wouldn't you want to bring a guy like that back?
    Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2010-2014!

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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    I am confident with Walt moving forward. I think that the Byrd 'non-move' was bad, but I also think a lot of non-moves and moves were predicated on Dusty and his ways.

    I think that the interview he gave yesterday is telling. He made it obvious, at least to me, that the front office is no longer going to what has happened the past few years. From Votto and Chapman being underutilized to BP talking out. I am not sure what moves if any Walt has up his sleeves, but I think this offseason is a telling one for this team and franchise and IMO Walt seems to be ready to steer the ship in the right direction.
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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    Ask me in March. This offseason is easily his trickiest since coming here.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    I'm confident he can put together the best Reds team since I've been following the team on a daily basis (99'). He already has. However there is a reason he was pushed out of St. Louis and the team has gotten better since he left.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    Quote Originally Posted by kbrake View Post
    However there is a reason he was pushed out of St. Louis and the team has gotten better since he left.
    Ehh...I mean they got better after a bad final year for Walt, but his success before that was equal to and in some instances (winning 100+ games in two consecutive seasons) greater than Mozeliak's, and the Cardinals have already gained from and taken advantage of the new Wild Card rules (as well as an epic Braves collapse the year before in 2011) that weren't in existence when Walt departed.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Ehh...I mean they got better after a bad final year for Walt, but his success before that was equal to and in some instances (winning 100+ games in two consecutive seasons) greater than Mozeliak's, and the Cardinals have already gained from and taken advantage of the new Wild Card rules (as well as an epic Braves collapse the year before in 2011) that weren't in existence when Walt departed.
    His last 5 years the Cardinals farm system ranked:

    30th, 28th, 28th, 30th, 21st, 27th from 2002-2007.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    Quote Originally Posted by 5TimeWSChamps View Post
    His last 5 years the Cardinals farm system ranked:

    30th, 28th, 28th, 30th, 21st, 27th from 2002-2007.


    The guys teams just win. He knows how to build a winner, he helped the Reds get to the playoffs.

    While the farm has taken a hit, none of the players he has traded have gone on to be a star someplace else.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    Now that he finally has "his guy" in the dugout, I think things might run more smoothly.
    "Iíll kind of have a foot on the back of my own butt. Thatís just how I do things.Ē -- Bryan Price, 10/22/2013

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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Now that he finally has "his guy" in the dugout, I think things might run more smoothly.
    Agree. I am 99% confident in Walt. I don't think he ever wanted Baker as manager or ever felt truly comfortable with him in the dugout, because of their differing philosophies. I'm hopeful Castellini will now allow Jocketty and the other baseball people to be in total charge of all baseball decisions.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    Walt's a pretty good GM. He isn't the best, but he's probably above average. He has made some fantastic acquisitions (Choo, Latos, Chapman, Marshall, etc.), and he has drafted quite well. He has made some boneheaded moves (Broxton, Ludwick, etc.), but so far the good has outweighed the bad. He rarely gets a steal when trading but by the same token, he doesn't often overpay in deals either. He's got a steady hand, and I think he's a solid GM for a contending team.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty

    Walt Jocketty, Jim Bowden, Walt, Jim...

    Confident, but will need to be a busy guy this offseason with a little bit of magic.


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