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    NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    Rawlings Sports just tweeted the finalists for the award:

    Darwin Barney
    Brandon Phillips
    Mark Ellis

    I think it is BP's to lose....
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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    Quote Originally Posted by BungleBengals View Post
    Rawlings Sports just tweeted the finalists for the award:

    Darwin Barney
    Brandon Phillips
    Mark Ellis

    I think it is BP's to lose....
    I wish I was that optimistic about his chances.
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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    https://twitter.com/RawlingsSports

    Bruce also nominated. Maybe you can change thread title.

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – NL RF – @Reds Jay Bruce, @Braves @JasonHeyward , @Dbacks Gerardo Parra/ @88_gparra

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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    Quote Originally Posted by PepperJack View Post
    https://twitter.com/RawlingsSports

    Bruce also nominated. Maybe you can change thread title.
    I made a separate thread for Bruce. Figured it would get cluttered and confusing arguing each award, but if a Moderator feels they should be merged, I would have no problem with that.
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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    All finalists.


    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – NL CF – @Brewers @C_Gomez27 , @Pirates @TheCUTCH22 , @Nationals @thisisdspan

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – NL LF – @Rockies @CarGoMedia5 , @Pirates @Starlingmart , @Mets Eric Young Jr./ @EYJr

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – NL SS – @Nationals @IanDesmond20 , @Braves Andrelton Simmons/ @Andrelton , @Rockies Troy Tulowitzki

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – NL 3B – @Rockies Nolan Arenado, @Dodgers Juan Uribe, @Mets David Wright

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – NL 1B – @Dbacks Paul Goldschmidt, @Dodgers Adrian Gonzalez/ @AdrianTitan23 , @Cubs @ARizzo44

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – NL C – @Dodgers @AJEllis17 , @Pirates @russellmartin55 , @Cardinals @Yadimolina04

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – NL P – @Dbacks @PatrickCorbin11 , @Dodgers Zack Greinke, @Cardinals Adam Wainwright

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – AL RF – @Orioles Nick Markakis, @Athletics @joshreddick16 , @RedSox @ShaneVictorino

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – AL CF – @Royals Lorenzo Cain, @RedSox @JacobyEllsbury , @Orioles Adam Jones/ @SimplyAJ10

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – AL LF – @Athletics Yoenis Cespedes/ @ynscspds , @Tigers Andy Dirks, @Royals Alex Gordon

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – AL SS – @Royals @alcidesescobar2 , @RaysBaseball Yunel Escobar, @Orioles J.J. Hardy

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – AL 3B – @Rangers Adrian Beltre, @RaysBaseball @Evan3Longoria , @Orioles Manny Machado

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – AL 2B – @Yankees @RobinsonCano , @RedSox Dustin Pedroia/ @15Lasershow , @RaysBaseball @TheZobrists

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – AL 1B – @Orioles Chris Davis, @Royals Eric Hosmer/ @TheRealHos35 , @RaysBaseball @jamesloney_7

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – AL C – @Twins Joe Mauer, @Royals @SalvadorPerez15 , @Orioles Matt Wieters

    #RawlingsGoldGlove Award Finalists – AL P – @BlueJays Mark Buehrle, @BlueJays @RADickey43 , @Tigers @dougfister58

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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    Quote Originally Posted by BungleBengals View Post
    I made a separate thread for Bruce. Figured it would get cluttered and confusing arguing each award, but if a Moderator feels they should be merged, I would have no problem with that.

    Yeah, I see that now, we just posted within seconds earlier. I hope Bruce and BP get it, don't care about the other non Reds myself.

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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    Wow, I was about to post about Juan Uribe being nominated a joke, but he easily the 2nd best 3B in the NL behind Arrenado (30 DRs / 22.5 UZR/150) but Uribe had 15 DRS and 35.3 UZR/150.

    Frazier was just flat out not as good as I thought - 5 DRS / 13.3 UZR/150

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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    Thrilled to see so many Orioles listed for the GG (IIRC, they set a record for a team with the least amount of errors in a season....I think they only made like 50+ errors for the entire season which is crazy amazing ) and I'm cautiously hopeful that Jay and Brandon win their respective awards.
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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    All teams have guys who don't get to be finalists but lets just look at Reds. 3 other guys could have been finalists without raising eyebrows much.

    P - Bronson Arroyo. No problem with the other finalists but it's hard to figure anyone fielding their position better than Bronson.

    SS - Cozart shouldn't win the award over Simmons but he holds his own with the other 2 guys on the finalist list.

    3B - Frazier - again, I wouldn't claim winning rights for Todd but I also wouldn't be aggrieved had he made the final cut. Defensively he was outstanding.

    Gold Glove is a weird award, though. Almost meaningless to me because voters end up considering team record, offensive stats & other stuff that doesn't mean anything to defensive prowess. Winning several has some merit but that's about it.
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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    Quote Originally Posted by HeatherC1212 View Post
    Thrilled to see so many Orioles listed for the GG (IIRC, they set a record for a team with the least amount of errors in a season....I think they only made like 50+ errors for the entire season which is crazy amazing ) and I'm cautiously hopeful that Jay and Brandon win their respective awards.
    Low error totals often have little to do with actual fielding prowess.

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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    https://twitter.com/RawlingsSports


    Since #RawlingsGoldGlove Award finalists started in '11, only 11 players finished in top 3 at respective position each year (cont'd):

    3-time #RawlingsGoldGlove Award finalists: Beltre, Bruce, Buehrle, Cano, A.Gonzalez, Gordon, Hardy, Molina, Pedroia, Phillips, Wieters

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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    I'd say it's Barney's to lose, but BP certainly has a decent shot.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    I'd say it's Barney's to lose, but BP certainly has a decent shot.
    Yeah I didn't realize how well Barney did defensively this year.

    I was surprised because Ellis' range factor is higher than both BP and Barney according to ESPN.

    I thought I read somewhere that GG award voters take offensive production like RBIs into account.
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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    no Votto

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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    Quote Originally Posted by icehole3 View Post
    no Votto
    No way. Even me, the biggest Joey Votto fan on this board, is not surprised by Joey not being part of this list. He didn't have a great year defensively at all.
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