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Thread: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    Quote Originally Posted by BungleBengals View Post
    Yeah I didn't realize how well Barney did defensively this year.

    I was surprised because Ellis' range factor is higher than both BP and Barney according to ESPN.

    I thought I read somewhere that GG award voters take offensive production like RBIs into account.
    They're not supposed to consider offensive performance at all, but they have historically. Essentially, many writers seemed to want to the award to be "best player at X position" rather than just "best defender". They just couldn't bring themselves to give an award to a guy who couldn't hit. And because defensive performance has been terribly subjective historically, with the only real "data" being errors, a stat extremely biased to good hands guys with no respect to range, it was more narrative-based than anything else.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/201...ove-finalists/


    Two other Reds — pitcher Mike Leake (6) and third baseman Todd Frazier (5) — were in the top three in DRS at their positions. Frazier was also third in UZR among third basemen at 9.7, behind Uribe (24) and Arenado (20.7).

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    Re: NL 2B Gold Glove Award

    Congrats to Brandon who won the 2013 (and his overall fourth) GG tonight!!
    "I tried to play golf, but I found out I wasn't very good." -Joey Votto on his offseason hobby search

    An MLB.com reporter asked what one thing Votto couldn’t do. “I can’t skate or play hockey,” Votto said. “Well, I can skate ... but I can’t stop.”

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