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    Re: Potential sides for Phillips/Uggla 2B entree

    Braves have said they'd expect any trade partner for Uggla to take on 6 million of his remaining contract. If they take on more than 6 million, they'll include a prospect. I think they better expect to do a little better on prospects.

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    Re: Potential sides for Phillips/Uggla 2B entree

    Tums.
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    Re: Potential sides for Phillips/Uggla 2B entree

    Quote Originally Posted by malcontent View Post
    Here's mine. LHP Marshall for LHP Alex Wood.

    Removing Marshall's $12M for the next two years in addition to the $24M saved by moving BP for Uggla would certainly free up a lot of dinero. Wood isn't eligible for arbitration until 2016.

    OK. Marshall's shoulder probably kills the deal. So what are the other possibilities? Or is Uggla a deal-breaker?
    I think that's a fine deal, and I don't see Marshall's shoulder as a deal breaker (is he not expected back full-strength next year?). People can scream about Uggla all they want, and they're right he sucks, but he's not going to be as bad going forward as he was last year, and Alex Wood is a good pitcher who can replace Marshall's production early and then slide into the rotation when all the starters we have are entering free agency. It's not a win-now move but it's a net-win over the long run that doesn't hurt you much in the short run. I wouldn't do the move because I wouldn't be trying to trade Phillips in the first place, but if you're already dead-set on that path, you could do a lot worse than this.

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    Re: Potential sides for Phillips/Uggla 2B entree

    Quote Originally Posted by kpresidente View Post
    Alex Wood is a good pitcher who can replace Marshall's production early and then slide into the rotation when all the starters we have are entering free agency.
    I see Wood as a quality starter, and have my doubts the Braves would actually deal him.

    But if they did, it would allow the Reds to deal another starter as well as saving about $36M.
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    Re: Potential sides for Phillips/Uggla 2B entree

    Quote Originally Posted by malcontent View Post
    Tough crowd. I'll take that as a "leans no".
    I know you posted this a few days ago, but it was a quote from monty python's meaning of life.

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    Re: Potential sides for Phillips/Uggla 2B entree

    Quote Originally Posted by Beatlessp View Post
    I know you posted this a few days ago, but it was a quote from monty python's meaning of life.
    Strange. I'd never heard of Mr. Creosote, either.
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    Re: Potential sides for Phillips/Uggla 2B entree

    I would rather keep Brandon Phillips and have the front office give him an attitude adjustment. And I think they have already started the process by firing Dusty Baker and putting out those trade rumors.
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    Re: Potential sides for Phillips/Uggla 2B entree

    I would rather keep Brandon Phillips and have the front office give him an attitude adjustment. And I think they have already started the process by firing Dusty Baker and putting out those trade rumors.
    Would be nice if you could unsay what's been said.
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    Re: Potential sides for Phillips/Uggla 2B entree

    Quote Originally Posted by malcontent View Post
    Strange. I'd never heard of Mr. Creosote, either.
    A character from the movie

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    Re: Potential sides for Phillips/Uggla 2B entree

    Could always substitute Broxton for Marshall.

    Saves a little more and keeps the lefty.

    But then you lose the symmetry of a second Marshall/Wood deal.
    Last edited by malcontent; 10-31-2013 at 09:23 PM.
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    Re: Potential sides for Phillips/Uggla 2B entree

    Quote Originally Posted by malcontent View Post
    Could always substitute Broxton for Marshall.

    Saves a little more and keeps the lefty.

    But then you lose the symmetry of a second Marshall/Wood deal.
    You probably also lose any chance of it actually happening. No one is going to touch Broxton until they see him healthy. He's also more expensive.
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    Re: Potential sides for Phillips/Uggla 2B entree

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    You probably also lose any chance of it actually happening. No one is going to touch Broxton until they see him healthy. He's also more expensive.
    True. I'm also not sure how Marshall's late-season return affected his trade status. I don't think the Reds can really count on a return to form from either of those guys.
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