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    Quote Originally Posted by 5TimeWSChamps View Post
    Pay attention, kids. Learn basketball from a "TEAM", not from a self-proclaimed "KING"

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    Lebron isn't going to a Western Conference Team. No chance.

    He wouldn't sniff the Finals unless he colluded again
    You're outta your mind. He is the best player in the game, easily. He didn't have much of a "TEAM".

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    The story of this night for ESPN will be how the Heat disintegrated. For me, it's how the Spurs DOMINATED. Beautiful, team-oriented basketball. Not superstar-centered. When they're clicking on all cylinders like that, they're untouchable. And it's a beautiful thing to watch.

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    Spurs rival the '77 Blazers for prettiest team play. Just a joy to watch as a hoops fan.

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    The Heat's supporting cast fell apart. Allen and Bosh were the only non-James player I felt good about by the end. Age and fatigue caught up to them. Four straight Finals trips will do that.

    As far as the Spurs, the ball movement was magnificent, but it happened because they made most of their open looks in the last three games. In games 3 and 4, every Spur was making every shot they took, so Miami had to respect everyone on the court and switch and close out maniacally. The Spurs were certainly smart to make the extra or extra-extra pass to the open man, but that was a product of Kawhi, Green, Diaw, and Mills making every shot they took. The Spurs weren't able to make as many passes and were a little more of a simple drive and kick/pick and roll team in games one and two. Those two things go hand in hand. Last year the same thing happened early in the series because Danny Green was making massive amounts of threes. It spread the floor and forced Miami's guys to fly all around the court, leaving others open. So, their passing IS the reason they were so good, but their passing came from making open shots. If they miss those shots, the offense has to adjust and the defense can cheat.

    Miami passes the ball similarly when their tertiary guys like Chalmers/Cole/Lewis/Allen/Battier are making 3's. As the Van Gundy's say, it is a make/miss league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    Very surprised to see that San Antonio is favored. Spurs are a year older and Dwyane is healthy. Heat in 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    Spurs rival the '77 Blazers for prettiest team play. Just a joy to watch as a hoops fan.
    When the Blazers were 22-4 back in December and they had just beaten the Spurs in San Antonio, those watching the game couldn't help but comment that it was like watching clones of the Spurs. The Blazers' switches on Defense mirrored the Spurs. Their Offense mirrored the Spurs. Then it all fell apart. The Defense stopped and the ball movement lessened. Instead of resembling the Spurs, they resembled the Blazers from the year before.

    It's a compliment to be compared to a Popovich-coached team.
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    LeBron opted out.

    Let the games begin.
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    LeBron opted out.

    Let the games begin.
    If Wade renegotiates they'll be back in Miami.
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    How can a Carmelo be cancerous when he has won a NCAA Championship, led his team to playoffs almost every year but two and gotten to conference championship game??

    Just curious....
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    Assuming Rose will be health at some point... Anyone think a trio of Rose, LeBron, and Melo would work in Chicago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slyder View Post
    Assuming Rose will be health at some point... Anyone think a trio of Rose, LeBron, and Melo would work in Chicago?
    They can't afford both. In order to afford either Melo or LeBron they have 5 things they need to do first. They can only afford one if they take way less than Max contract
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puffy View Post
    Kingspoint -

    How can a Carmelo be cancerous when he has won a NCAA Championship, led his team to playoffs almost every year but two and gotten to conference championship game??

    Just curious....
    One guy can make all the difference in the NCAA tournament. You don't need a team playing together to win it all. He also was a lot more humble at that age than after he received a $100M dollars plus since then.

    As he got older, his maturity went the wrong direction. He didn't get wiser, he got even more self-centered, and more of a disruptive force on a basketball team than when he was younger.

    Making the playoffs in the NBA is not something to be proud of. More than 50% of the teams make the playoffs.

    You only have to watch his play on the court to see the negatives that he brings to his team. He's not like LeBron, though nearly as talented. LeBron has always kept a perspective on what it takes to win in the NBA...he has always tried to make his teammates better. Carmelo has never done that. Anthony will never, ever win a title until he's a small part of the equation, long after his best years are over with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    One guy can make all the difference in the NCAA tournament. You don't need a team playing together to win it all. He also was a lot more humble at that age than after he received a $100M dollars plus since then.

    As he got older, his maturity went the wrong direction. He didn't get wiser, he got even more self-centered, and more of a disruptive force on a basketball team than when he was younger.

    Making the playoffs in the NBA is not something to be proud of. More than 50% of the teams make the playoffs.

    You only have to watch his play on the court to see the negatives that he brings to his team. He's not like LeBron, though nearly as talented. LeBron has always kept a perspective on what it takes to win in the NBA...he has always tried to make his teammates better. Carmelo has never done that. Anthony will never, ever win a title until he's a small part of the equation, long after his best years are over with.
    This kind of analysis drives me crazy. How is he a disruptive force on the court? I haven't seen him yelling at teammates. How can he be the disruptive force on a team that included Metta World Peace and J.R. Smith? Was he a disruptive force last year when they won over 50 games?

    He isn't nearly as gifted as LeBron. He doesn't have the leaping ability, quickness, or passing skills that make LeBron a total freak. He is an elite isolation scorer, jump shooter, is really strong, has a big backside (a huge asset in basketball), and is an excellent rebounder for his size. He is not a great defender, but his particular size and speed don't lend themselves to being dominant on that side of the ball.

    As for the "he can't win" stuff, there is only one title a year. Not everyone can win. Sometimes there are just players/teams that are better than others. LeBron is better than Carmelo and has been on better teams than Carmelo has ever been on. The same goes for Kobe, Shaq, Wade, Nowtizki, and Duncan. Those guys are all top 25 all time players (with maybe Wade on the edge of that group). There is no shame in losing to those guys. Barkley didn't have any character flaws, he just played during the era of Michael Jordan and Hakeem. It seems awfully easy to just say, "he can't win because of some mental deficiency". If you remember, LeBron and Jordan got the same treatment when they were younger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by improbus View Post
    How is he a disruptive force on the court? I haven't seen him yelling at teammates.
    Style of play. Pretty simple.

    He dominates a locker room. It's pretty obvious. Combine that with his style of play and that makes him a disruptive force, whether that's to a Coach's efforts or other teammates' efforts to play a team game. He's "all for one", not "one for all".
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