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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
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    Uncle Walt is excruciating. My trade fever is probably just heightened because of the Fielder trade, but I am so sick of Uncle Walt sitting on his hands. Yes, I know he traded for Latos, but he has done absolutely nothing since, and that was two years ago. The time to improve the team is now, and carrying 3 catchers is not the way to do so.
    He traded for the best player who was dealt during last winter.

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    Re: Reds sign Brayan Pena

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Good.Lord.

    Uncle Walt is excruciating. My trade fever is probably just heightened because of the Fielder trade, but I am so sick of Uncle Walt sitting on his hands. Yes, I know he traded for Latos, but he has done absolutely nothing since, and that was two years ago. The time to improve the team is now, and carrying 3 catchers is not the way to do so.


    The quote Walt never mentions Hanigan by name. He can't just come out and say " I can't wait to get rid of these guys."

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    Re: Reds sign Brayan Pena

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Good.Lord.

    Uncle Walt is excruciating. My trade fever is probably just heightened because of the Fielder trade, but I am so sick of Uncle Walt sitting on his hands. Yes, I know he traded for Latos, but he has done absolutely nothing since, and that was two years ago. The time to improve the team is now, and carrying 3 catchers is not the way to do so.
    Walt is just being diplomatic.
    A press person asks him a question about the catching situation.
    He really has no idea if it's worth it to trade Hanigan or even Mez.
    Why say something that boxes him into a corner?
    It's highly unlikely the Reds go with 3 catchers. I would not worry.

    Walt got Choo and Parra last season. Parra was not a trade, but a great move. I know it makes the winter more boring, but I kind of like the results that slow, methodical Walt gives as opposed to the constant random, roster churn of Krivisky and Bowden.
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    Re: Reds sign Brayan Pena

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Good.Lord.

    Uncle Walt is excruciating. My trade fever is probably just heightened because of the Fielder trade, but I am so sick of Uncle Walt sitting on his hands. Yes, I know he traded for Latos, but he has done absolutely nothing since, and that was two years ago. The time to improve the team is now, and carrying 3 catchers is not the way to do so.
    Others have addressed this, saying he was being diplomatic or that he's not going to disparage a player and those would be correct, IMO. But likewise, keep in mind that it does no good for your trade position to be talking about being in a bind now that you have three catchers signed. Conceivably, they could go into the season with three catchers, although that's unlikely. But, again, it does us no good to say straight up, "I've got to trade one of the other ones."
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    Re: Reds sign Brayan Pena

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    Others have addressed this, saying he was being diplomatic or that he's not going to disparage a player and those would be correct, IMO. But likewise, keep in mind that it does no good for your trade position to be talking about being in a bind now that you have three catchers signed. Conceivably, they could go into the season with three catchers, although that's unlikely. But, again, it does us no good to say straight up, "I've got to trade one of the other ones."
    Good and correct point.

    I am just antsy because all my Tigers fans friends are excited about the Fielder trade and I am anxious for the Reds to make a splash.

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    Re: Reds sign Brayan Pena

    Here's a story put up on MLB.com on Pena. Interesting stuff.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/cin/...n&ymd=20140203
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    Re: Reds sign Brayan Pena

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    Here's a story put up on MLB.com on Pena. Interesting stuff.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/cin/...n&ymd=20140203
    Nice to read about a player excited to play for the Reds. We always hear about how hard it is to get players to want to come to Cincy, but it seems if the team is run right, it will attract players.
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    Re: Reds sign Brayan Pena

    Good story.

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    Although starting catcher Devin Mesoraco will see the bulk of the workload behind the plate, Price doesn't plan on pairing Pena with a specific starting pitcher or two throughout the course of the season.

    Price sees the switch-hitting Pena as an offensive weapon against certain opponents. Because of Pena's ability to work with the entire staff, Price won't need to limit Pena's playing days to a set rotation.

    "He talks to the pitchers every day, and he knows how to lead," Price said. "He's got very strong leadership abilities. He's an excellent addition to our club. I think he really fits what we're trying to do here."
    And for Pena, the Cincinnati organization takes on a bit of added significance. A native of Cuba, Pena grew up a Reds fan -- as many Cubans do because of the club's ties with players like Leo Cardenas, Tony Perez and, presently, Aroldis Chapman.

    Understandably, it gives Pena a lot of joy to glance down at his chest and see the script "Reds" emblazoned across his jersey.

    "The Reds are one of those teams that has a lot of tradition -- especially in my country," Pena said. "Chapman and I, we were talking about it the other day, and we feel like, 'Wow, this is awesome to be playing here with the Reds.' Everybody in Cuba is so excited for us playing together with the Reds. There's a lot of tradition with this ballclub, and I just feel like I'm blessed for the opportunity."

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    Re: Reds sign Brayan Pena

    Glad that Pena won't be assigned to certain starters. While I get trying to make the starting pitcher as comfortable as possible, I much prefer the idea of being flexible and not sitting Mesoraco when he's on a tear just because (x) is starting.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Reds sign Brayan Pena

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Glad that Pena won't be assigned to certain starters. While I get trying to make the starting pitcher as comfortable as possible, I much prefer the idea of being flexible and not sitting Mesoraco when he's on a tear just because (x) is starting.
    absolutely, I rather sit or start the catcher because of the opponents pitcher than handling the own pitchers...

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    Re: Reds sign Brayan Pena

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    absolutely, I rather sit or start the catcher because of the opponents pitcher than handling the own pitchers...


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    Re: Reds sign Brayan Pena

    Quote Originally Posted by tomnuetten View Post
    absolutely, I rather sit or start the catcher because of the opponents pitcher than handling the own pitchers...
    I can understand it if you have only one pitcher who prefers a "personal" catcher, either because he is an elite Greg Maddux/Steve Carlton type, or because he throws a unique pitch like the Niekro brothers, or because of a serious language barrier. I was OK with Arroyo having a personal catcher in David Ross, and then Ryan Hanigan, because he was a "thinking man's pitcher" who felt more comfortable having someone behind the plate who was on the same page as him mentally. If the "personal" catcher is the #2 C, then it also builds in scheduled "off days" for the regular catcher to get some rest. But IMO no more than one pitcher in a rotation should have such a luxury--it handcuffs the club too much.

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    Re: Reds sign Brayan Pena

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    I can understand it if you have only one pitcher who prefers a "personal" catcher, either because he is an elite Greg Maddux/Steve Carlton type, or because he throws a unique pitch like the Niekro brothers, or because of a serious language barrier. I was OK with Arroyo having a personal catcher in David Ross, and then Ryan Hanigan, because he was a "thinking man's pitcher" who felt more comfortable having someone behind the plate who was on the same page as him mentally. If the "personal" catcher is the #2 C, then it also builds in scheduled "off days" for the regular catcher to get some rest. But IMO no more than one pitcher in a rotation should have such a luxury--it handcuffs the club too much.
    I agree but there are exceptions.

    A lot of pitchers have delicate psyches. With some pitchers, if they think that a personal catcher helps them out, it probably does. But if they are good enough it shouldn't matter. Does anyone believe that if Javy Lopez caught Maddux all the time he wouldn't have the career he had? Just like last summer. Hanigan got hurt and Mes had to catch guys like Bronson. They quickly found out that they pitched just as well, if not better, with Mes than they did with Hanigan.
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