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    Re: 2013 Bengals Discussion (Part 3)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    By that you mean there will be no post season for this team?
    No, by that I mean another first round playoff loss. The loss to Miami was Inexcusable and shows how small mentally this team is

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    They've gone down 17-3 and 17-0 the past two weeks and forced overtime each time. They aren't a mentally weak team.

    It's a flawed team, but they are resilient. That might be Andy Dalton's biggest plus actually. There's no quit in him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5TimeWSChamps View Post
    No, by that I mean another first round playoff loss. The loss to Miami was Inexcusable and shows how small mentally this team is
    No idea what that even means. This isn't college football, and we're not Alabama playing a Division 2 team. They're professionals getting paychecks just like our guys are. The Bengals aren't the only team to have bad losses you know. Last year's champion Baltimore Ravens team lost to the Eagles.

    If you're even a little off one week anyone can beat you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stray View Post
    No idea what that even means. This isn't college football, and we're not Alabama playing a Division 2 team. They're professionals getting paychecks just like our guys are. The Bengals aren't the only team to have bad losses you know. Last year's champion Baltimore Ravens team lost to the Eagles.

    If you're even a little off one week anyone can beat you.
    I guess the Colts are done since they lost to the Titans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I guess the Colts are done since they lost to the Titans.
    The colts also lost to the dolphins. And the broncos lost to the colts. I guess the only team that isn't "done" according to this logic is the chiefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    Even worse than Marvin's brain farts and Dalton's inconsistency, injuries have absolutely gutted this team.

    I could have actually envisioned a scenario where the Bengals could have risen above the first two to win a SB, I'm afraid with all the injuries to essential personnel added on top it is just too much for the Bengals to win it all. I think they will still limp into the playoffs, however.
    I don't necessarily disagree that injuries, especially on defense, may have put a serious damper on our Super Bowl hopes, but I will say that injuries haven't been all that much crueler to the Bengals as they have to other teams, in what amounts to regular course in the NFL.

    Yes, we lost Geno and Hall, arguably our two best players on defense. Everyone else has just been a nick or a bruise, and we have been fortunate to have virtually zero injuries to the offense (Baby Hawk nothwithstanding).

    But think about the Packers, who lost their best defensive player, #1 WR, All-Pro TE, All-World QB and two of their RB for a few weeks. Or think about the Falcons losing Julio Jones (our equivalent of AJ). Or the Pats without Gronk, Wilfork and Mayo. Or the Colts without Wayne and Bradshaw. Point is, every team in the NFL suffers key injuries- you just have to withstand and bounce back. As amazing and important as Geno is, I'd rather lose him than Dalton, Green, Gio and maybe even Burfict. If the Bengals lose one of those guys, they drop out of playoff contention quickly. It does hurt a lot though, obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    It has not hurt them on defense at all. That injury has not been a backbreaker at all. Zimmer was able to get a Top 10 D in 2008 out of almost nothing. Go look up who they had that year.

    They are losing because of the inconsistent offense.

    Thompson and Vincent Rey have been very good on the D and Crocker has once again helped the secondary out. If this offense could just quit with the TO and Gruden would avoid any running on short yardage situation......this team is now 8-2.

    They lost 2 close games in OT and outgained the other team by over 100 yards in each game.
    Agreed that the inconsistent offense, not injuries to the defense, has been the problem with this team. And I put most of that on 3 things:

    1. Bad playcalling by Gruden
    2. Historically inconsistent play by Dalton
    3. Critical (and almost pattern-like) miscues by two of my least favorite draft picks of the last 5 years: Mo Sanu and Jermaine Gresham

    Dalton is an "average" QB in the NFL only because of the law of averages/expected value - he is either a Top 3 or Bottom 3 QB in the league every week, there is almost no in between with him.
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    Re: 2013 Bengals Discussion (Part 3)

    Zeitler is in a boot and on crutches, so the o-lines about to get worse.
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    Re: 2013 Bengals Discussion (Part 3)

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    Zeitler is in a boot and on crutches, so the o-lines about to get worse.
    If Zeitler is out for a while they might want to think about having Whitworth go to LG and Boling to RG so Collins can play LT, though thats a lot of shuffling.

    It sucks that Collins can't play guard as they could use his pass blocking despite him not being that good of a run blocker.

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    Re: 2013 Bengals Discussion (Part 3)

    Quote Originally Posted by 5TimeWSChamps View Post
    No, by that I mean another first round playoff loss. The loss to Miami was Inexcusable and shows how small mentally this team is
    I agree with your statement above but I sure don't consider a playoff worthy season "over" in mid November. Have we Bengal fans gotten to the point where we take playoffs for granted? Really?

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    Re: 2013 Bengals Discussion (Part 3)

    Quote Originally Posted by CTA513 View Post
    If Zeitler is out for a while they might want to think about having Whitworth go to LG and Boling to RG so Collins can play LT, though thats a lot of shuffling.

    It sucks that Collins can't play guard as they could use his pass blocking despite him not being that good of a run blocker.
    They're very high on Tanner Hankerson. I wonder if they ought to plug him in and see what happens.

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    Re: 2013 Bengals Discussion (Part 3)

    With the injuries, I think a playoff appearance would be a successful season. You have to adjust expectations.
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    Re: 2013 Bengals Discussion (Part 3)

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    With the injuries, I think a playoff appearance would be a successful season. You have to adjust expectations.
    They've been great at home and with the likelihood that a playoff berth will come via a divisional championship (and a home game), I will be disappointed if they are one-and-done this season. If they can grab the #3 seed they will get a mediocre at best team in the first round. Even if they are the #4 I like their chances against the Chiefs at home.

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    I think they could still win a playoff game. I don't know who else is going to win the division. The 2nd place AFC West team will be the 4 seed, so that means the Bengals would be playing at home against one of (most likely):

    Jets
    Chargers
    Titans
    Cleveland
    Baltimore

    Two of those teams will make the playoffs, which is how bad the AFC is. I'm assuming Miami is going to implode as they are also 4-5. The only other possibility would be one of the 3-6 teams get on a run and win 5 or 6 of their last 7 games. I don't see Bufalo doing that, so that leaves Pittsburgh. They've got baltimore and Cleveland left, but they still have Detroit and Green Bay (after Rodgers is back). I don't see the Steelers being good enough to go on that kind of run.

    I don't see any of those 4 teams the Bengals couldn't, and shouldn't, beat at home in the playoffs, even with the team as is. The AFC is 3 deep with Denver, KC, and NE. Even with all the injuries, I don't see another team in the AFC that's better than Cincinnati.
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    Re: 2013 Bengals Discussion (Part 3)

    Quote Originally Posted by MWM View Post
    I think they could still win a playoff game. I don't know who else is going to win the division. The 2nd place AFC West team will be the 4 seed, so that means the Bengals would be playing at home against one of (most likely):

    Jets
    Chargers
    Titans
    Cleveland
    Baltimore

    Two of those teams will make the playoffs, which is how bad the AFC is. I'm assuming Miami is going to implode as they are also 4-5. The only other possibility would be one of the 3-6 teams get on a run and win 5 or 6 of their last 7 games. I don't see Bufalo doing that, so that leaves Pittsburgh. They've got baltimore and Cleveland left, but they still have Detroit and Green Bay (after Rodgers is back). I don't see the Steelers being good enough to go on that kind of run.

    I don't see any of those 4 teams the Bengals couldn't, and shouldn't, beat at home in the playoffs, even with the team as is. The AFC is 3 deep with Denver, KC, and NE. Even with all the injuries, I don't see another team in the AFC that's better than Cincinnati.
    Only one of those teams will be in the playoffs, not two. There are four division winners, so the 2nd place AFC West will be the fifth seed. And then one of those teams listed will get in as the six.


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