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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    It must be hard for national sports writers to write countless articles about Choo and have to so expertly remove any mention or acknowledgment that the Cincinnati Reds is a real thing.
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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Schuler View Post
    It must be hard for national sports writers to write countless articles about Choo and have to so expertly remove any mention or acknowledgment that the Cincinnati Reds is a real thing.
    what would a minor league hockey team want with Choo?
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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    The only way I ever wanted to trade BP is if it means you could bring Choo back.

    Moving BP and not re-signing Choo would be really bad, IMO.
    Unless of course you trade Choo for Gardner. In 2010, 2011 and 2013, Gardner has overall been worth 2 more wins than BP. I left out 2012 because Gardner didn't play....but going forward, you'd probably get more value out of Gardner than BP, albeit not LOADS more.

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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    Buster Olney is saying Houston now. You know $$$ is the only factor if the Stros are your choice.
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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by New York Red View Post
    Buster Olney is saying Houston now. You know $$$ is the only factor if the Stros are your choice.
    They're not as far away as people think, their farm is vastly improved and they've got tons of payroll to add more as they need to. So it's not really that far-fetched. It's also a nice park for him to hit in. And I don't think he'd have to play center either (added Dexter Fowler). Back to his more natural RF. And lastly...yes, they can definitely afford him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    They're not as far away as people think, their farm is vastly improved and they've got tons of payroll to add more as they need to. So it's not really that far-fetched. It's also a nice park for him to hit in. And I don't think he'd have to play center either (added Dexter Fowler). Back to his more natural RF. And lastly...yes, they can definitely afford him.
    All good points, but Choo turns 32 around the all-star break. He doesn't have a lot of time left to chase a WS ring. Unless the Astros have the most loaded farm system in the league, or Houston suddenly becomes the destination for free agents, I don't see them making a playoff run anytime soon.
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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    Choo was traded for Ben Broussard back in 2005. I vaguely remember that but forgot how the Tribe ended up with him. What a great trade for the Indians.

    Talk about Redszone going full circle.

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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    If the Astros is the most viable alternative for Choo, he should take a bit less money and stay with the Reds, where he is happy and appreciated and can win.

    If he asked the Reds for $100 million over six years, at this point they would probably bite -- seeing how the FA market has exploded.

    I agree that it should be worth something to Choo to go to a winning team now even for less.

    I guess if the Stros are offering Ellsbury money, then that's different. But c'mon Choo, stay home with the Reds.

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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by New York Red View Post
    Buster Olney is saying Houston now. You know $$$ is the only factor if the Stros are your choice.
    Exactly. The Astros need everything. It will take three or four years just to be competitive,IMO. Unless they go out and sign an all star team this is. I really don't think Choo would sign with them. I believe he does want to win.
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    Re: Who will get Choo?

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    Astros Notes: Choo, Loney, Carp

    By Charlie Wilmoth [December 13 at 9:50pm CST]

    The Astros aren't likely to sign Shin-Soo Choo, Evan Drellich of the Houston Chronicle argues. They don't want to sacrifice the draft pick they'd have to give up in order to sign him (even though their top overall pick is protected). They might do so if Choo's price were low enough, but at this point, there's no reason to think Choo won't be very highly paid, which means that the Astros, interested though they are in adding big-league talent to a team that lost 111 games last year, probably won't be serious players. Drellich also notes that the Astros probably only have about $10MM left to spend for 2014, and want to add a first baseman and reliever with that money. Also, even acquiring a player of Choo's caliber wouldn't make the 2014 Astros a contending team. Signing Masahiro Tanaka would make more sense, Drellich argues, since Tanaka is only 25 and wouldn't cost a draft pick.

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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    I just hope he ends up somewhere decent. Choo seems like a good guy who wanted to stay in Cinci, and he's choosing another team because he and Boras are going to make a lot more money elsewhere.

    hopefully it's the AL.

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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by jhiller21 View Post
    I just hope he ends up somewhere decent. Choo seems like a good guy who wanted to stay in Cinci, and he's choosing another team because he and Boras are going to make a lot more money elsewhere.

    hopefully it's the AL.
    He chose Boras because he wanted buckets of money. He would only stay in Cincinnati, or sign elsewhere, for said buckets of money. He's from Korea so I don't think he cares where he plays in the US.
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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Honcho View Post
    He chose Boras because he wanted buckets of money. He would only stay in Cincinnati, or sign elsewhere, for said buckets of money. He's from Korea so I don't think he cares where he plays in the US.
    Looks like choosing Boras was a bad choice.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/10-degr...165809610.html

    According to this article, Boras turned down 7 years, $140M from the Yankees, and demanded more money. The Yankees then turned around and signed Beltran. Choo is doubtful to get 7 years from anyone else.
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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by oregonred View Post
    Choo was traded for Ben Broussard back in 2005. I vaguely remember that but forgot how the Tribe ended up with him. What a great trade for the Indians.

    Talk about Redszone going full circle.
    Wow - so all the Reds had to do was trade Jeff Stevens and Ben Broussard for Brandon Phillips and Shin Soo-Choo prior to the 2006 season?

    Talk about two moves that (could've) set the franchise up for the next decade! At least Krivsky actually did one of them.

    Ben Broussard was a Redszone darling, later giving way to Chris Denorfia, Dave Sappelt, and of course, Chris Heisey. Redszone loves light-hitting replacement level OF.
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    Re: Who will get Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Wow - so all the Reds had to do was trade Jeff Stevens and Ben Broussard for Brandon Phillips and Shin Soo-Choo prior to the 2006 season?

    Talk about two moves that (could've) set the franchise up for the next decade! At least Krivsky actually did one of them.

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