I was with you up until the last paragraph. Gutierrez hasn't had a decent season at the plate since 2009.
I was with you up until the last paragraph. Gutierrez hasn't had a decent season at the plate since 2009.
It is on the whole probable that we continually dream, but that consciousness makes such a noise that we do not hear it. Carl Jung.
Sure I get that but what alternatives do we have? I don't think the Reds have much faith in Hamilton being the answer at least for the 1st half of the season. At Gutierrez has the potential to give them at least a really good 1st half what with the park (both offensively and defensively) and being new to the NL. It's a decent gamble IMO.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one."
--Woody Hayes
Gutierrez had a better 2013 than 2009 by the numbers. He can't stay healthy, though. He is a hammer vs. LHP, careerwise, although his splits reversed last year for some reason. I'd shy away from him because of his track record with health but he'd be an interesting gamble.
99% of all numbers only tell 33% of the story so when looking at the numbers remember that numbers is plural...
Mario-Rijo (12-09-2013)
alwaysawarrior (12-09-2013),kbrake (12-09-2013),marcshoe (12-09-2013),Old school 1983 (12-09-2013)
He had a higher slugging percentage because he hit 10 homers in 41 games, but that's an awfully small sample size (and one accompanied by a .273 obp.)
He only played 40 games the year before, and lifetime only gets on base at a .306 clip. Personally, if we're going to settle for those kind of numbers in center, I'd rather just go ahead and start Hamilton.
The Reds need another solid outfield bat, though, whether it's in center or left.
It is on the whole probable that we continually dream, but that consciousness makes such a noise that we do not hear it. Carl Jung.
I think after reading this teams might be more willing to take a chance on him. Some flukish stuff and some answers to the not so fluky stuff. This was mid summer 2013 when these were published BTW.
http://http://blog.seattlepi.com/bas...d-again-still/
In all seriousness, this is bad news for everyone. After years of battling health problems including irritable bowel syndrome, a concussion, pain in his throwing arm and now issues with his legs and hips – stemming from a recently discovered genetic disorder that causes inflammation in his joints – it is unclear if Gutierrez will ever be fully healthy.Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/marin...#storylink=cpyRecently, doctors figured out that Gutierrez has a genetic disorder that basically causes inflammation and arthritic pain in his joints and other parts of his body.
“I started taking some medicine, and it’s working now,’ Gutierrez said. “It took about three or four weeks to start feeling better. I didn’t know what I had and they didn’t know either. They found out that it caused all these things. As soon as I started the medicine, I started feeling better and better and better.”
Gutierrez wasn’t sure of the exact name of the condition and Mariners medical staff chose not to comment on specifics other than it was a disorder causing inflammation in the joints.
“They finally figured out what was going on,” Gutierrez said. “It wasn’t their fault, because they’re doing a really good job on me, doing everything I ask them to do. I guess we got to the time where they found out what it is, and I’m feeling much better. It was affecting my joints, my eye was getting inflammation. So many people didn’t know about this, and we didn’t need to talk about it until now. Obviously, I don’t want to make a big deal about this, but it’s what’s been happening. I’m feeling much better now. I’m taking the medication, it’s working.”
Last edited by Mario-Rijo; 12-09-2013 at 10:44 AM.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one."
--Woody Hayes
Arroyo and the Pirates have mutual interest
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/201...tual-interest/
@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Angels' Trumbo in play. Club officials view him as difficult to lose, but also as the piece who might bring them most in return.
I know you guys hate him but could this be the RH bat?
there's nothing like bowling a 300 game! 13 now and retired.
Ricky henderson has a higher OBP than C. patterson and he's retired. C. Trent 6-14-2008
bigredmechanism (12-09-2013)
It is on the whole probable that we continually dream, but that consciousness makes such a noise that we do not hear it. Carl Jung.
No
Code:AREER OUTS displayed only--not a sorting criteria REACHED BASE displayed only--not a sorting criteria PLATE APPEARANCES BETWEEN 1850 AND 50000 OBA <= .315 SLG > .465 RUNS CREATED/GAME DIFF PLAYER LEAGUE OUTS RB PA OBA SLG 1 Bo Jackson 0.31 4.90 4.59 1886 812 2626 .309 .474 Royals/White Sox/Angels 2 Ron Kittle 0.29 4.80 4.51 2160 922 3013 .306 .473 White Sox/Yankees/Indians/White Sox/Orioles/White Sox 3 Dave Kingman 0.23 4.71 4.48 5381 2236 7429 .302 .478 Giants/Mets/Padres/Angels/Yankees/Cubs/Mets/A's 4 Marcus Thames 0.09 5.09 5.00 1432 623 2016 .309 .485 Yankees/Rangers/Tigers/Yankees/Dodgers 5 Mark Trumbo -.09 4.46 4.55 1357 554 1853 .299 .469 Angels 6 Mike Jacobs -.25 4.93 5.18 1521 670 2140 .313 .473 Mets/Marlins/Royals/Mets/Diamondbacks
Tom Servo (12-09-2013)
Hard to see him being large enough upgrade over Ludwick to warrant giving up significant pieces I would think. Seems like the RH bat they are looking for would have to be capable of fielding CF and LF.
Trumbo I imagine would have a lot more value to a team that can play him at LF, 1B and DH.
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