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    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    I suspect Soto won't get this done. What do we really think about something like Phillips, Hanigan, and Yorman for Bautista? {That's a name I think they'd want]
    If the Reds can get Bautista without trading Bailey, they should do it.

    Phillips, Hanigan and Yorman? I'd do it.

    I think the Jays would try for an expanded deal including Bailey.

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    Re: Unofficial Hot Stove News and Rumor Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    I suspect Soto won't get this done. What do we really think about something like Phillips, Hanigan, and Yorman for Bautista? {That's a name I think they'd want]
    It was tongue-in-cheek - hence the . I was referring to this article from a little while back.

    http://jaysjournal.com/2013/11/08/ry...-trade-target/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    If the Reds can get Bautista without trading Bailey, they should do it.

    Phillips, Hanigan and Yorman? I'd do it.

    I think the Jays would try for an expanded deal including Bailey.
    If they did, I'd want Rasmus also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Good news is that with Profar off the market, the Reds have a good shot at David Price now.
    Say what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Say what?
    Rays are actively shopping Price. The most talked about rumor had him going to the Rangers for a package including Profar. That ain't happening now, which gives the Reds a shot at Price.
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    IMO, the board is over valuing Bautista, a 33 yo OF'er already showing declining production who had two really good years. He's not a .950 OPS guy anymore. I might do a trade for Phillips straight up. No more.

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    Re: Unofficial Hot Stove News and Rumor Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    I suspect Soto won't get this done. What do we really think about something like Phillips, Hanigan, and Yorman for Bautista? {That's a name I think they'd want]
    I'd do that in a second. Doubt Bautista goes without a good starting pitcher involved.

    Can Bruce play CF with Bautista in RF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Rays are actively shopping Price. The most talked about rumor had him going to the Rangers for a package including Profar. That ain't happening now, which gives the Reds a shot at Price.
    Ah, okay, now I see how the dots got connected there. Still... I love Price, but I'm not sure the Reds are (or really should be) in the market for another top-shelf SP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Can Bruce play CF with Bautista in RF?
    I think so, yeah. Choo played it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Rays are actively shopping Price. The most talked about rumor had him going to the Rangers for a package including Profar. That ain't happening now, which gives the Reds a shot at Price.
    I'm guessing Price to the Dodgers for Zach Lee, Corey Seager, Joc Pederson and maybe more.

    Kershaw, Price, Greinke, Ryu, Beckett/Billingsly?? Gulp!!!!
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    Re: Unofficial Hot Stove News and Rumor Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Hillsdale87 View Post
    I think Castellanos to 3rd is the expectation
    Wonder if they'd want a veteran, lefty hitting, glove man to caddy for him. Schumaker probably takes Hannahan's spot on the roster. Detroit may be a good place to pawn him off. Hannahan for Phil Coke? Reds need lefty bullpen depth and Coke seems to be out of the plans in Detroit. Might be pricey, but it's better than eating Hannahan's $3 Million. Reds could still non-tender Coke if he won't be reasonable and pursues arb. They still get out of Hannahan's deal that way.

    Coke's split's weren't a wow. He gave up a .760 OPS against LH Hitters but a .373 BABIP might be the culprit. Small samples to make much out of, but could be a decent Loogy with Parra gone and Marshall's health still iffy...
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    Re: Unofficial Hot Stove News and Rumor Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Wonder if they'd want a veteran, lefty hitting, glove man to caddy for him. Schumaker probably takes Hannahan's spot on the roster. Detroit may be a good place to pawn him off. Hannahan for Phil Coke? Reds need lefty bullpen depth and Coke seems to be out of the plans in Detroit. Might be pricey, but it's better than eating Hannahan's $3 Million. Reds could still non-tender Coke if he won't be reasonable and pursues arb. They still get out of Hannahan's deal that way.

    Coke's split's weren't a wow. He gave up a .760 OPS against LH Hitters but a .373 BABIP might be the culprit. Small samples to make much out of, but could be a decent Loogy with Parra gone and Marshall's health still iffy...
    The only problem is Castellanos to 3rd is not the expectation. Reports out of Detroit the past couple years have said Castellanos is not even as good as Miguel Cabrera at third base. He is going to stay in left. I think they are either going to resign Jhonny Peralta or trade for a 3B. Chase Headley, maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Dang. The Tigers Rangers trade has serious ramifications for the Reds. It kills off trades with either team. The only remaining logical trade partners are the BlueJays, and the Royals.
    It may increase the potential return for Bailey however. If the deal has freed up enough money for the Tigers not to shop Scherzer, it would take a top arm off the market and leave Bailey alone in that land between Price and the Free Agents.

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    Re: Unofficial Hot Stove News and Rumor Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT View Post
    IMO, the board is over valuing Bautista, a 33 yo OF'er already showing declining production who had two really good years. He's not a .950 OPS guy anymore. I might do a trade for Phillips straight up. No more.
    A declining Bautista is just better than a declining Phillips no matter how I look at it. I would say Hanigan would even it out if he had more years on his contract...but he doesn't.

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    Re: Unofficial Hot Stove News and Rumor Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kpresidente View Post
    A declining Bautista is just better than a declining Phillips no matter how I look at it. I would say Hanigan would even it out if he had more years on his contract...but he doesn't.
    Bautista, even with a declining bat, is a potent weapon in this offense. Put him behind Votto in the batting order, and Votto starts seeing a lot more hittable pitches.
    How do we know he's not Mel Torme?


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