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    How much will the qualifying offer...

    ...affect Choo's market? In recent days, I've seen reports that the Mets and the Rangers (and I believe one other club) backing off earlier talk of going hard after him. I know that his numbers against left-handed pitching should give some pause to a team considering him, but how much affect does the thought of giving up a 1st or 2nd-round pick hurt his (and Boars') plans? Enough to bring him down into the upper 8-figure range and closer to the Reds comfort zone?

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    Re: How much will the qualifying offer...

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    ...affect Choo's market? In recent days, I've seen reports that the Mets and the Rangers (and I believe one other club) backing off earlier talk of going hard after him. I know that his numbers against left-handed pitching should give some pause to a team considering him, but how much affect does the thought of giving up a 1st or 2nd-round pick hurt his (and Boars') plans? Enough to bring him down into the upper 8-figure range and closer to the Reds comfort zone?
    IMO, not so much the draft pick as Boras' escalating demands. If he understands it'll be five years at best, fine. If he keeps pressing for 6 and 7 years, Choo will be out there awhile.

    I think 5-80 to 5-100 is about what he'll get, and the fifth year will likely be a option. I don't see any team out there going beyond that.

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    Re: How much will the qualifying offer...

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    ...affect Choo's market? In recent days, I've seen reports that the Mets and the Rangers (and I believe one other club) backing off earlier talk of going hard after him. I know that his numbers against left-handed pitching should give some pause to a team considering him, but how much affect does the thought of giving up a 1st or 2nd-round pick hurt his (and Boars') plans? Enough to bring him down into the upper 8-figure range and closer to the Reds comfort zone?
    I'm not certain that the QO will affect the FA market like it did last year for a top OBP guy like Choo. All teams have an additional $25 mil from increase in National TV rights income, should they choose to put that to payroll those interested in Choo will can absorb his costs without flinching or worrying about the early draft round loss.

    By my estimate Cast can increase payroll to capture choo, but I believe he's gotta prioritize locking up pitching first.

    With the extra cash floating around, I wouldn't count on Choo's asking price to fall.

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    Re: How much will the qualifying offer...

    If a team feels a player is valuable enough to give a 9 figure fully guaranteed contract, I don't believe they are going to be held back by losing a draft pick

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    Re: How much will the qualifying offer...

    He's going to get a monster deal from someone. And it probably won't be the Reds/

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    Re: How much will the qualifying offer...

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyInTheBank View Post
    If a team feels a player is valuable enough to give a 9 figure fully guaranteed contract, I don't believe they are going to be held back by losing a draft pick
    Remember, it is not just the loss of a draft pick but a loss of millions of total dollars in total bonus money you can pay in your draft. This puts a team like the Mets in a tough spot. The mets know they won't be good in '14 but have money to spend now to improve the team in 2 or 3 years and beyond. That is tough to do if you can't spend as much in the draft.

    Even if the mets merely lost their first round pick for signing Choo, they might have been willing to do it if they had money to play with to pay guys above slot... Perhaps even enough to convince a top prep not to go to college but to sign with them instead .
    ". . . acquiring J. Blanton from Oakland for, apparently, Bailey/Cueto, Votto and a lesser prospect. I do it in a second . . . The Reds' equation this year is simple: Make Matt Belisle your #3 starter . . . trade for Blanton, win 85 or more, be in the mix all summer." - Paul Daugherty, Feb. 8, 2008

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    Re: How much will the qualifying offer...

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    Remember, it is not just the loss of a draft pick but a loss of millions of total dollars in total bonus money you can pay in your draft. This puts a team like the Mets in a tough spot. The mets know they won't be good in '14 but have money to spend now to improve the team in 2 or 3 years and beyond. That is tough to do if you can't spend as much in the draft.

    Even if the mets merely lost their first round pick for signing Choo, they might have been willing to do it if they had money to play with to pay guys above slot... Perhaps even enough to convince a top prep not to go to college but to sign with them instead .
    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyInTheBank View Post
    If a team feels a player is valuable enough to give a 9 figure fully guaranteed contract, I don't believe they are going to be held back by losing a draft pick and the associated bonus money
    There... fixed it


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