"All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH
Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS
People can call the bullpen bloated old and expensive but I'd take Marshall broxton and chapman over parra lecure and Hoover everyday. Bullpens win games bullpens win championships. Weak bullpens blow those. Hoover could put up decent save totals but he is no where near the caliber of chapman stuffwise. Not even close. No one player will replace choo, but grabbing mediocre and redundant parts for an all star gold glove second basemen and a guy that's near the top closer in the game with starting potential isn't smart. Choos production won't be made up instantly, but I think Choos numbers look way shinier than what he actually brought last year due to his league bottom CF D and his inability to hit lefties. In any tight game he becomes a non factor late because of the loogy and a defensive detriment. If we trade a chapman for a prospect get one that covers a position of need with plus ability. Idk much about castellanos besides his numbers but they look like they translate into something that could be had for less. Plus in a year or so our prospects may very well be a better option. Seems like a waste if chapman. I'd look into Phillips and a prospect for a pitcher so that a guy like bailey who might not come back or cueto with a recent injury history but still valued could be moved for pieces that could help more. Not for pieces that are stopgaps 4-5 starters and a prospect that very well could become redundant with ours in a small amount of time.
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I don't understand people that think Chapman can't start. He look like the second coming of Randy Johnson to me. Secondary pitches? He has a fantastic slider, he just doesn't throw it because he doesn't have to as a closer. Johnson made a HOF career out of a 98 MPH fastball and a slider. Plus it's not like he's never started...He started 65 games in Cuba.
Chapman's slider is so ridiculously nasty I can't believe it. If he can locate that for strikes, look the heck out.
Even if Baker was standing in the way, to have something that valuable and not use it would still be on Jocketty and Ownership for not forcing it through. So for me the last 2 seasons I have just read between the lines and thought that he would never be able to make it as a starter based on their actions. They can not come out and exactly say that he does not have what it takes so I judged them more on their actions than words.
If they end up making him a starter now I would rethink my feelings on the handling of this team the last couple seasons by Jocketty and company.
But if Chapman is so far beyond the normal closer, he can close games but also work other times in leveraged situations to get him more innings.
It would require a secondary closer, for when Aroldis is used otherwise, which also has happened before.
-He has not built up any measure of stamina in terms of innings pitched
-In both 2011 and 2012 he had minor shoulder issues
-He has not developed a third pitch
-It has been stated on more than one occasion that Chapman prefers to close.
I would prefer to see him as a starter. I think everyone would. But that transition is not without drawbacks. The Reds are in a win now mode. I worry that it would look a lot like Neftali Feliz's 2012. Everyone remember him?
The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.
Interesting trade proposal but a couple of questions:
1. Who replaces Phillips at second base?
2. Who becomes the closer? Marshall failed in a short trial. Broxton is coming off arm surgery. J.J. Hoover?
You don't do this deal unless you have the replacements.
If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.
Take out Porcello, Put in Smyly and Rondon
Make the deal
The guy who knows Chapman's abilty better than anyone is now the manager. If Price says he's going to be a starter, that's good enough for me. Chapman is likely the most dominant, overpowering pitcher in the game. Why in the world would you want to trade him?