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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    We already have Hannahan though for that role.
    Hannahan can't hit, period. And he only really plays third.
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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    I don't mind the signing as a bench player, but why in the world do the Reds keep signing these bench players to multi-year deals? Nobody on the bench should be on more than a 1 year deal (maybe with an option and cheap buy-out).
    Sabermetrics can be boiled down to this simple truism: A batter's goal is to extend the inning. Extend enough innings and you're going to score runs. Extend more innings than your opponent and you're going to score more runs than him.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Every team needs a scrub who plays more than 1 position
    We already have Hannahan.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    Hannahan can't hit, period. And he only really plays third.
    That's what qualifies him as our scrub that can play more than one position
    I think Hannahan can play 2b if needed, Dusty just usually prefered to use Izturus there.

    Still, given the fact the Reds owe Hanahan about 2 million next year, I don't think he'll be cut.
    I see either BP, Paul, or Heisey being gone as a result of this.

    I like this signing though, assuming it didn't break the bank. Could've done much worse, especially if Schmaker can play CF in the GAB.
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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    We already have Hannahan though for that role.
    Doesn't really make much sense to cut Hannahan for a marginal improvement like this.

    Schumaker's ability to play the OF isn't as valuable to the Reds, as we have DRob, Hamilton, and Heisey as depth guys there.
    Still obviously early to know where the club's head is at. I definitely prefer Skip as a bench bat to Hannahan, though. And that's not just me basing it off Jack's lackluster season last year in limited opportunities.

    Career .285/.244/.372 bat... even in a "down" season last year, put up .263/.332/.332 versus Hannahan's career .232/.316/.349. I don't think he has Hannahan's glove (the one errorpalooza last year notwithstanding), but I don't hate the idea of Schumaker on the team.

    We may need a center fielder, second basemen or both here in a few weeks. Skip's a decent depth guy across the board at those positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post

    Still, given the fact the Reds owe Hanahan about 2 million next year, I don't think he'll be cut.
    I see either BP, Paul, or Heisey being gone as a result of this.

    I like this signing though, assuming it didn't break the bank. Could've done much worse, especially if Schmaker can play CF in the GAB.
    Jumped the gun before I saw your second reply. Agreed on all counts.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    I would much rather have Skip than Hannahan. Hannahan was a mistake signing, and isn't useful at all off the bench, as he can't hit. Never could. Skip has a career OBP of .344.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Pretty solid, consistent bat who can play several positions. Good backup who won't hurt your lineup if he ends up in too many games.

    I do have two major complaints about him, though.

    First, the way he spells his last name. My German forebears had the grace to change the spelling of their name to Shoemaker when they came over 250 years ago, but people still constantly try to spell my name the Deutsch way. We don't need people like Skip confusing everyone.

    Which brings us to my second issue. Skip. Really? Skip?

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    Skip Schumaker has 22 career stolen bases in his 9 year career.

    Billy Hamilton refers to that as "a decent homestand."
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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    I just dislike bringing in former Cardinals players like Emonds and Schumaker.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Quote Originally Posted by marcshoe View Post
    Which brings us to my second issue. Skip. Really? Skip?
    I plan on referring to him as Jared.
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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I don't mind the signing as a bench player, but why in the world do the Reds keep signing these bench players to multi-year deals? Nobody on the bench should be on more than a 1 year deal (maybe with an option and cheap buy-out).
    He made 1.5 million last year, so I'm guessing this deal isn't for much more. If they need to get rid of him in the second year, that type of money is really bupkus.

    Walt drafted him and brought him through the St. Louis farm system, so he is probably very comfortable with having him in the organization. I think this gives the Reds something they didn't have last year, an older experienced player who can play a number of positions coming off the bench. If they need to use him in a double switch he can then play a number of places-- which Hannahan can't.

    I also think Walt has a bigger plan and wants to have backups in place for when it takes place.
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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/m...-two-year-deal



    FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports that the Reds and Skip Schumaker have agreed to a two-year deal, pending a physical.
    No word yet on the exact terms involved. Schumaker, who turns 34 in February, batted .263/.332/.332 with two homers and 30 RBI over 125 games with the Dodgers this season while making starts between second base and all three outfield positions. The Reds will likely use him in a similar super-sub role.
    Source: Ken Rosenthal on Twitter Nov 18 - 4:25 PM

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421 View Post
    We already have Hannahan.
    Maybe they want a guy who can play more than one position really

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

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