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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Maybe they want a guy who can play more than one position really
    Which leads back to the question of why anyone in their right mind would want Jack Hannahan, let alone for two years.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    The bench just a got a little better with this signing. Not bad at all.
    "We know we're better than this, but we can't prove it." - Tony Gwynn

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/1...year-deal.html

    Though he offers positional flexibility -- he appeared at second base and all three outfield positions this season -- Schumaker does not play any one position particularly well. He posted negative UZR and DRS marks at all four of his positions in 2013 and has registered negative defensive value each season since 2008, according to Fangraphs.

    Even if he isn't a gifted defender though, Schumaker will give new Reds manager Bryan Price a versatile piece off his bench that has slashed a respectable .279/.347/.357 against right-handed pitching over the past two seasons.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    The Hannahan signing was a mistake. But, I think it was made because there were those in the organization who feared Frazier would have issues with defense at third. Those were obviously not true, as he was pretty damn good on defense.

    I think the reason for 2 years for Hannahan is because there were a few teams after him last year. Maybe some team would still want him if the Reds would eat a half million or so.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    How's his D? That .715 lifetime OPS looks a lot better with decent D.
    "Iíll kind of have a foot on the back of my own butt. Thatís just how I do things.Ē -- Bryan Price, 10/22/2013

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I just dislike bringing in former Cardinals players like Emonds and Schumaker.
    At the rate Walt's going, you may as well go ahead and order this now and just put it aside for ~2019:

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/players...skip-schumaker

    PLAYER UPDATES

    November 18, 2013 4:54 pm
    Reds to sign free agent Skip Schumaker
    by Al Melchior | Data Analyst
    FOXSports.com reports that the Reds agreed to sign free agent outfielder/second baseman Skip Schumaker to a two-year deal Monday.

    Schumaker is expected to take on the utility role he has previously filled for the Dodgers and Cardinals. In 2013, he hit .263 with two home runs and 30 RBI in 319 at-bats.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    How's his D? That .715 lifetime OPS looks a lot better with decent D.
    Not sensational by any means. Serviceable across a handful of spots, but the defensive metrics aren't kind to him at any one in particular.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    He's had some pretty good years hitting RHP and last year he was down a bit. Maybe he'll put up something near .300 from the plate. He probably improves the bench and could save an extra spot for a bench bat role similar to Lutz.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilHamburger View Post
    The Hannahan signing was a mistake. But, I think it was made because there were those in the organization who feared Frazier would have issues with defense at third. Those were obviously not true, as he was pretty damn good on defense.

    I think the reason for 2 years for Hannahan is because there were a few teams after him last year. Maybe some team would still want him if the Reds would eat a half million or so.
    Good post.

    Yeah, I'm not losing sleep over the speculative second year given to him (for the reasons you laid out that made sense at the time)... or the second year given to Skip here. Assuming Schumaker's salary is round about the $1.5 million he made last year... If you walk away in 2015 and eat his contract, that's basically a rounding error in today's game.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Nice to know we have real replacement level talent to fall back on, but a bit surprised to see a 2B/OF; still need to add a backup SS though.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    If Skip can conjure a renaissance of his 2007 form, this could be awesome. .333/.358/.458 with positional flexibility? Yes please!
    "Iíll kind of have a foot on the back of my own butt. Thatís just how I do things.Ē -- Bryan Price, 10/22/2013

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Usual assortment of posts who continue to fail to grasp the concept of a 25 man roster.

    Skip has some ability to get on base, and can play multiple positions. If he could actually field well he'd probably be a borderline starting player at one of them.

    Fits the bill of a pretty standard bench guy. If they are giving him real money, or forced to use him as a starter, he's obviously a gigantic compromise like most bench players are.

    I'll reserve judgement in accordance with the rest of the roser moves, but in a vacuum, this seems like a perfectly reasonable bench option.

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    Usual assortment of posts who continue to fail to grasp the concept of a 25 man roster.
    Really? I've seen some (perhaps) weak attempts at humor, but no real misguided posts here. Most of us understand this is a depth signing -- and perhaps (we can hope) the precursor of more meaningful moves.
    "Iíll kind of have a foot on the back of my own butt. Thatís just how I do things.Ē -- Bryan Price, 10/22/2013

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    Re: Reds Sign Skip Schumaker

    Omar Infante is about to get paid very well, turns 32 in a few weeks, and has a career line of: .279/.319/.402

    Paying 10's of millions more for the difference between Skip and Omar is a mistake. Save that money for actual difference makers (Bautista, Choo, etc...).

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