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    I'd lawyer up if I were completely innocent and being accused of such a thing. Hell, I'd lawyer up especially if I were innocent. But that's just me.
    Exactly. The best way to be falsely convicted is to talk with detectives for hours on end without representation.

    It's why the accuser's story was rejected....the prosecutor couldn't figure out which one to go with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Is it any more horrible to suggest that the Tallahassee PD is giving Winston special treatment? Because that seems to be the theme in this thread.

    Jameis Winston= Guilty until proven innocent. I think people want to see a star athlete fall, as long as they don't wear Scarlet & Gray.
    That's not what I said at all if you look back a few posts, right before the announcement. I would rather it be the truth that whatever happened, it was not an assault and the two young people take care of their own character issues that led to this incident in the first place. Regardless of whether the culture accepts gratuitous sex between acquaintances, or because they are "dating," that doesn't mean its a wise choice. Obviously its a story because of who Jameis Winston is, but that doesn't mean the moral issues of the whole mess change.
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    Interesting read in the link below. I know it's deadspin and I'm not posting it because I agree with the author and think Winston guilty. I don't have an opinion either way, and it's clear from the author's back story that she is going to be inclined to fall on the side of the accuser in these cases.

    But it is a different perspective on how the process works and why so many women don't follow through with the legal process. Also, it's the first I've read about some of the other evidence.

    http://deadspin.com/why-i-believe-ja...ser-1479782169
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWM View Post
    Interesting read in the link below. I know it's deadspin and I'm not posting it because I agree with the author and think Winston guilty. I don't have an opinion either way, and it's clear from the author's back story that she is going to be inclined to fall on the side of the accuser in these cases.

    But it is a different perspective on how the process works and why so many women don't follow through with the legal process. Also, it's the first I've read about some of the other evidence.

    http://deadspin.com/why-i-believe-ja...ser-1479782169
    Agree, well that is how system normally works

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    Now why would I have sympathy for unmarried college students having sex and it ending up being a national story? If you don't want to be a news story, don't sleep around. If you don't want to pay half a million a year in child support, don't sleep around. At least that's what I'd be telling these young men if I were their coach.
    So it's a moral judgment -- if you choose to engage in sex, be prepared and accept the fact that someone can ruin your life with a mere allegation of rape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by New York Red View Post
    In the presser today, didn't Meggs clearly state they wanted to interview Winston, but he declined? That doesn't sound like full cooperation to me. If he's not Jameis Winston, no way this plays out the same way. The result likely would have been the same, but the handling of it? No chance.
    You'd be a certifiable fool to give an interview to the police without counsel present if you're being accused of a rape offense.

    Many of these types of cases are highly charged, emotionally -- and there are definitely places where the mere allegation of rape plus some corroborating facts (facts you might provide in a statement you think is a claim of innocence) are enough for a D.A. to seek an indictment.

    Once someone has been identified as a suspect, police interviews are designed to build cases and gather evidence against people, not eliminate them from consideration.
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    Just saw this on Twitter:

    Melanie Michael ‏@WTSPMelanie

    BREAKING: Just spoke with family of Jameis Winston's accuser. Her lawyer plans to hold presser Friday. Family says, "It's gonna be good."
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    Well, reviewing an article on the attorney's comments, it is an attack on the investigation. Gee, that's a bombshell.

    What is sad is that the article is the accused's current side of the story, so USA Today attaches Jameis Winston's "career highlights" pics at the bottom of the article, lest we forget that he is a star football player for the top-ranked and NC favorite team. Very poor taste.
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    FSU under investigation for handling of Jameis Winston case"
    The U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights has opened an investigation of Florida State University into whether its handling of the Jameis Winston rape allegations violated Title IX laws, according to a letter confirming the decision that was obtained by USA TODAY Sports.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ights/7262359/
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    I think this probably means that FSU isn't paying him....
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    Oh dear lord. What an idiot. NFL teams don't want guys with character issues. Winston is costing himself millions with this petty crap.
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    Re: Things Getting Ugly in Tallahassee

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    Oh dear lord. What an idiot. NFL teams don't want guys with character issues. Winston is costing himself millions with this petty crap.
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