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    Re: Carlos Beltran, Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Is Beltran a solid clubhouse guy? Kind think that's what Walt is gunning for. I wouldn't mind Beltran if they are satisfied he can hold up to laying left field on a regular basis, the deal is for no more than two years (one preferred) and the money is reasonable - seems like a tall trifecta to pull off though. Deal Hanigan to the Rays for Joyce as insurance and a LH bat off the bench. They'd probably have to move Ludwick to make it happen, but if they didn't Ludwick and Joyce would be a pretty nice 1-2/right-left bench combination and plenty of insurance. Maybe a lesser deal for Span as a bridge to Billy.
    Carlos is one of the best in the clubhouse from what I can tell. Everyone seemed to love the guy. Not sure if he would settle for 2 years though.

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    Re: Carlos Beltran, Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    I will go to my grave convinced the Reds would have won at least one World Series if they had signed Beltran. Might make sense in LF next season. The draft pick compensation could lower his eventual contract price. For the record I'd move back 15 picks in order to get a meaningful bat.
    Reds signed Ludwick instead, and he was just as good as Beltran in 2012. Beltran could have just as easily been the one injured in 2013.

    With all the free agents getting QO, Reds could be forfeiting around a 10-15 slot pick in a very deep draft. This is not the year to sign a player with a QO.
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    Why didn't he take the Cardinals QO if he might be willing to sign for 2/$20MM?
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Carlos Beltran, Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Why didn't he take the Cardinals QO if he might be willing to sign for 2/$20MM?
    He hates toasted ravioli?
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    Re: Carlos Beltran, Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Reds signed Ludwick instead, and he was just as good as Beltran in 2012.
    Beltran would have put the Giants away in 2012. Also, he'd have been a huge factor the Reds in 2013. Nothing against Ludwick - he had a fine 2012 - but he's no Carlos Beltran.
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    Re: Carlos Beltran, Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Beltran would have put the Giants away in 2012. Also, he'd have been a huge factor the Reds in 2013. Nothing against Ludwick - he had a fine 2012 - but he's no Carlos Beltran.
    You should look at Ludwick's postseason numbers for the Reds again. He was among our best, if not our best, in the playoffs.
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    Re: Carlos Beltran, Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Beltran would have put the Giants away in 2012. Also, he'd have been a huge factor the Reds in 2013. Nothing against Ludwick - he had a fine 2012 - but he's no Carlos Beltran.
    Ludwick posted a 1.200 OPS against the Giants in the playoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Ludwick posted a 1.200 OPS against the Giants in the playoffs.
    Ludwick's had sterling postseason numbers for the Reds. Beltran, however, takes over entire series. Obviously I can't prove Beltran would have made the difference because he wasn't there (he was busy putting away the Nats), but I'm convinced to a moral certainty on it. Sometimes you need an icon.
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    Re: Carlos Beltran, Anyone

    Please no.

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    Re: Carlos Beltran, Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by MattyHo4Life View Post
    I don't think you want to play Beltran in CF.
    +1. He'd make Choo look like a perennial GG CF'er.

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    Re: Carlos Beltran, Anyone

    I really have a bad feeling about Beltran as a Red.

    I would rather they take a flyer on Corey Hart. Let him battle it out with Ludwick, make a trade somewhere to free up the cash it would take to sign Choo.
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    Re: Carlos Beltran, Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I really have a bad feeling about Beltran as a Red.

    I would rather they take a flyer on Corey Hart. Let him battle it out with Ludwick, make a trade somewhere to free up the cash it would take to sign Choo.
    Hart's a good target, at least from a value standpoint.

    Assuming he falls off the radar a bit from being hurt the entire year.
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    Re: Carlos Beltran, Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    Hart's a good target, at least from a value standpoint.

    Assuming he falls off the radar a bit from being hurt the entire year.
    His name is never mentioned by the national media.

    He's a great under the radar target.
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    Wheels; I'm with you bud. I just think at this stage in Beltran's career that he is better suited in the AL w/ the DH. I can just see a season ending injury and a pile of cash sent to the DL. You may not get the full potential from Hart but if healthy he is an All Star type bat.

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    Re: Carlos Beltran, Anyone

    Quote Originally Posted by OneManBand View Post
    Wheels; I'm with you bud. I just think at this stage in Beltran's career that he is better suited in the AL w/ the DH. I can just see a season ending injury and a pile of cash sent to the DL. You may not get the full potential from Hart but if healthy he is an All Star type bat.
    He gives you power at value. I'm a fan.
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