Hanigan to Rays, David Holmberg to Reds, PTBNL to Arizona

[RedTeamGo!]

Who is Sylvia Browne?

edit: looked it up - most random reference ever.

[westofyou]

Who is Sylvia Browne?

edit: looked it up - most random reference ever.

Should have used Edgar Cayce eh?

[dfs]

LaRue also had a much better walk-up song. I miss hearing Hank at the ballpark.

I will give him a better walk up song.

Interesting to note that Jason was full over the cliff at the age of 32. Of course Hanigan turned 32 last year and ....appeared to drive over the cliff.

Now, LaRue had played 643 games by then and Hanigan is only on 474.

I know all about small sample sizes and catchers, but the rays could really regret that contract. It's the Paul Janish rule. Defence may carry you, but no matter how well you play your position if you hit below 220, they will look to replace you.

[bucksfan2]

I will give him a better walk up song.

Interesting to note that Jason was full over the cliff at the age of 32. Of course Hanigan turned 32 last year and ....appeared to drive over the cliff.

Now, LaRue had played 643 games by then and Hanigan is only on 474.

I know all about small sample sizes and catchers, but the rays could really regret that contract. It's the Paul Janish rule. Defence may carry you, but no matter how well you play your position if you hit below 220, they will look to replace you.

I wonder if it has to deal with body structure as well. I would consider both LaRue and Hanigan on the smallish side of catchers. If you look at a guy like Mesoraco he seems much more solidly built. Maybe he can withstand the daily grind of catching better than Hanigan can.

[RedTeamGo!]

Should have used Edgar Cayce eh?

[757690]

Keith Law - The Sylvia Browne of baseball.

There's a difference between Sylvia Browne and Keith Law. Sylvia Browne was right every now and then.

[Tom Servo]

I will give him a better walk up song.

Interesting to note that Jason was full over the cliff at the age of 32. Of course Hanigan turned 32 last year and ....appeared to drive over the cliff.

Now, LaRue had played 643 games by then and Hanigan is only on 474.

I know all about small sample sizes and catchers, but the rays could really regret that contract. It's the Paul Janish rule. Defence may carry you, but no matter how well you play your position if you hit below 220, they will look to replace you.

Hanigan last year at the plate totally reminded me of LaRue in 2006. They looked OK at the plate and you kept thinking eventually he was going to go on a tear and turn it around to hit somewhere in the low .200 level, and he never did.

[Puffy]

My stance on prospects is that when John Sickels and Keith Law disagree, go with Sickels every time.

Have you been in my kitchen? Cause that is what my coffee mug says......

[M2]

Have you been in my kitchen? Cause that is what my coffee mug says......

Oddly, you'll find the same words on various garments in my underwear drawer.

[redsmetz]

Piece from Tampa paper on Hanigan with quotes from Price.

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseb...anigan/2158879

[NebraskaRed]

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/rays/n...g-show/2165029

One of Hanigan's dogs won a Best of Breed ribbon at Westminster.

I'm only sharing this because I really like the movie Best in Show. And I already miss Hanigan.

[RedTeamGo!]

Anyone else find it odd all these writers are saying the Reds got nothing in return for Hanigan?

Seems like Holmberg is a solid pitching prospect to me.

[Kc61]

I've read a number of articles critical of the Hanigan trade, but very few note that the Reds' catchers last season simply did not hit. They had one of the NL's worst offenses at the catcher position.

Something had to change. One could debate trading Hanigan and keeping Mes, and one can argue whether Pena was an adequate addition. Some would have added a more major player, like a Saltamacchia, whose name I'm undoubtedly misspelling.

These articles do not necessarily grasp the Reds offensive issues last year and how it would have been almost impossible to leave the catching situation alone. There are also ramifications for the general team philosophy of giving full chances to prospects, like a Mesoraco.

I have doubts about Mes but catcher is one position where the Reds did make an appropriate attempt to fix things this off-season. It's a reasonable approach, no matter what the various articles say.

[westofyou]

Anyone else find it odd all these writers are saying the Reds got nothing in return for Hanigan?

Seems like Holmberg is a solid pitching prospect to me.

Reminds me of the buzz all teams seemed to get for being dumb and letting go of Jack Cust or Mark Bellhorn. Some will weigh skill sets differently based on what's the statistical flavor of the day is. It used to be secondary average and power and now it's pitch framing and catchers defensive chops.

Both groups of players problem have some warts, let's all just acknowledge that Hannigan's was his bat (not his at bat's but his bat)

[OGB]

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/rays/n...g-show/2165029

One of Hanigan's dogs won a Best of Breed ribbon at Westminster.

I'm only sharing this because I really like the movie Best in Show. And I already miss Hanigan.

"Now tell me, which one of these dogs would you like to have as a catcher on your baseball team?"

Changed from football to make it redszone appropriate