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    Grantland's Annual Trade Value Top 50

    Grantland's annual list of the 50 MLB players with the greatest trade value has started to be posted.
    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ankings-part-1
    Chapman has dropped out of the top 50 because they no longer view him as a starter. Cueto dropped out due to his injuries.
    Bruce has come in at 43.
    43. Jay Bruce, OF, Cincinnati Reds (35): Figuring out player value would be a lot easier if everyone developed the same way: break into the majors in early twenties, improve in mid-twenties, peak in late twenties, start to decline in early thirties. They don't. There are players like Bruce, who put up a big season at 23 and then plateaued; if anything, Bruce has regressed a bit, striking out more in 2013 than in any other season. But Bruce is still just 26, and he might very well have more to offer, whether it's improving his contact skills (and thus raising his batting average), drawing more walks, or maybe even taking the next step up in power to become a 40-homer guy. And he might: Bruce has increased his doubles total in each of the past five years, going from 15 to 23 to 27 to 35 to 43. If a few of those start sneaking over the fence, we could see 40 homers very soon.

    If this is as good as Bruce gets, the Reds will get their money's worth at $47.5 million over the next four years (assuming they pick up his $13 million option in 2017), given that they've had a big-swinging right fielder with 30 or more homers in each of the past three seasons. And if he breaks out, Bruce will rank among the game's most underpaid players with similar levels of service time.
    this is their "methodology"
    Trade Value Rules

    1. Contracts matter. Max Scherzer is a better pitcher than Gerrit Cole, but Scherzer will be eligible for free agency at the end of next season, while Cole isn't even arbitration-eligible yet and will be under team control through 2019.

    2. Age matters. Bartolo Colon and Jose Fernandez put up fairly similar numbers in 2013, but Colon is 40 and likely won't be pitching for too much longer, while Fernandez is just 21 and could very well get better.

    3. It's all relative. Pretend every team started shopping every player as a trade candidate. Who would attract the biggest return from any one of the other 29 clubs? For instance, if we're comparing the trade value of Paul Goldschmidt and Andrelton Simmons, we're not concerned that the Braves have an excellent first baseman of their own in Freddie Freeman, or that the Diamondbacks already have a promising young shortstop in Didi Gregorius. What we want to know is this: If every team were allowed to bid on Goldschmidt and Simmons, which player would net the greater return?

    4. Positional scarcity matters. If a shortstop and first baseman put up comparable offensive numbers, the shortstop is the more valuable player, since it's much tougher to find a player with the defensive chops to handle short than it is to find one who can man first. That's already reflected in Wins Above Replacement (which you'll see referenced throughout these rankings), but it bears repeating.

    5. Defense, park factors, and other variables not immediately apparent in superficial stats matter. These are not fantasy baseball rankings, so a player who hits 30 home runs isn't necessarily more valuable than one who hits 20, or even five.

    6. Major leaguers only. Baseball teams place great value on top prospects, since those players offer the twin virtues of great potential and low price. But going through every minor league level for every team can muddy matters for non-prospect hounds. So we'll stick to players who have appeared in at least one major league game. That means Xander Bogaerts and Wil Myers are eligible for this list, but Byron Buxton and Miguel Sano (both of whom would otherwise be strong top-50 contenders) are not.

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    Re: Grantland's Annual Trade Value Top 50

    Pretty much confirms why Chapman as a closer makes so little sense for a talented club in the middle of a playoff window with a mid-market payroll. I trust Price will make the right decision, but the ship probably sailed two years ago with the Madsen injury and subsequent move back to the pen.

    Chapman could make 25M a year as an elite starter. He'd get 10M as an elite closer. Surprised his agent isn't demanding he start. Which leads me to think maybe he's perfectly content as a closer.

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    Re: Grantland's Annual Trade Value Top 50

    Part 2 is up now. No more Reds are on the list.

    Shockingly Mike Trout is #1. I am stunned- Ondrusek robbed again!

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    Re: Grantland's Annual Trade Value Top 50

    Quote Originally Posted by oregonred View Post

    Chapman could make 25M a year as an elite starter. He'd get 10M as an elite closer. Surprised his agent isn't demanding he start. Which leads me to think maybe he's perfectly content as a closer.
    This is exactly where I have fallen on it. He must know he cannot be successful as a starter deep down or he would not come out and say he prefers closer. Whether it be lack of secondary pitches or not being able to hold up physically. His agent and himself have to know how much money he is turning down. Either he is not starter material or is one of the least motivated by money humans ever.


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