_Sir_Charles_ (12-29-2013)
Our RH hitting should improve by a lot, cumulatively, with Mesoraco, Frazier, and Cozart one year closer to their prime. Hanigan won't bat as often, while Ludwick will supply some pop. Phillips should drop a bit on his OPS, but he also won't be asked to bat cleanup this season, a little less pressure for him.
Without Choo on base, pitchers won't be throwing from the stretch as often vs Votto, Phillips and Cozart. These three players will see more wind-up pitching during their at-bats, making their at-bats more difficult. Just trying to cover both sides of the argument here.
99% of all numbers only tell 33% of the story so when looking at the numbers remember that numbers is plural...
_Sir_Charles_ (12-29-2013)
Couldn't you use reverse logic on the pitching staff though? Miller should be better in his second full season with more experience. Also, don't underestimate what playoff experience will do for a "kid". Yes they're young but they certainly got a ton of experience with their playoff run.
The bullpen should be better out of spring training 2014 than it was 2013 esp. with Motte back in the mix.
Also, I think the real wild card for them is Oscar Taveras. If he becomes a stud hitter like most experts believe he will, the Cards offense will look potent this season. Though if he fails to meet expectation, I still like the Cardinals chances of "replacing Beltran's production" with Matt Adams playing every day. Remember, it's not exactly like the Cards lost Mike Trout. Beltran's numbers, while good, aren't exactly some monumental mark that can't be meet by anyone. Last season, Matt Adams actually had a higher OPS and OPS+ than Beltran. So I think there are multiple options for the Cardinals to replace Beltran's production.
As Saluki mentioned, the Cardinals did hit well with RISP but they also had very little power last year as well. I would expect more HR's from Craig and others which will go a long way to balance out a dip in RISP production.
EDIT: When I say "better" for Shelby Miller, I mean in terms of consistency rather than him lowering his ERA or raising the meaningless win total.
Last edited by MikeThierry; 12-29-2013 at 11:52 AM.
The basis is the statistical evidence of the last 10,000+ who have played Major League Baseball. Everyone's production is on a bell-curve in their career, and our RH bats are still on the upswing of that bell-curve, except for Phillips, who is on the down-swing.
It's Baseball Statistics 101.
I welcome you to revisit this at the end of 2014 for proof. The OPS's of 2014 for each of our RH bats can be plotted on a bell-curve along with the OPS' of each other year of their careers, and the 2014 plots and career plots of their OPS' should fall right in line with the curve that has already been established by the 10,000+ Major Leaguers who came before them....steroids era not being a part of the equation.
Last edited by Kingspoint; 12-29-2013 at 12:40 PM.
It's all speculation at this point, right? It's kinda pointless to try to bring my expectations down at this time of the year just so you know. I wear my "homer" badge with pride. :O)
I agree that the kids will feel more "at home" with another year under their belts, but that comes with opposing coaching staffs with a whole year of tape to work with. As always, it's about adjustments. When a player has a breakout year, the opposition adjusts, then it's up to that player to re-adjust. I think a traditional Sophomore Slump isn't much of a reach for Wacha & Miller.
As for the lack of power and the high ba/risp...I don't disagree with that, but my biggest nit to pick with the Cards offense last year was their abnormally high BABIP among the starters. I expect that to normalize and when it does a bunch of runs fall by the wayside.
Don't get me wrong, I think the Cards are a very solid team and they'll compete for the playoffs again...but they played over their heads last year and I fully expect a slide. Not a big one, but one down into 3rd (2nd if the Pirates collapse).
Guess I disagree. Lots of players have their best season in their first couple of years and then flame out as the league adjusts or they get exposed and they don't have what it takes to adjust back. I think Todd Frazier and Zach Cozart could easily end up as examples. Chris Heisey is probably an example of that and Drew Stubbs certainly was. Some other former Reds who had it happen include Corey Patterson and Willy Taveras. CF is counting on a guy who was a failure at AAA and the Catcher has an OPS below .600 against RHP. There seems to be a lot of people counting on more PT curing what ails him, but more exposure could just as easily sends his numbers plummeting as he flails away every day as it could help him take the next step.
All my posts are my opinion - just like yours are. If I forget to state it and you're too dense to see the obvious, look here!
Lot's of players peak early in their careers, but they are careers that begin late. They still tend to play their best baseball at 27-29. The steroid era changes all of that.
Frazier's poor plate discipline and desire to swing at low-and-away pitches is a major concern. That Homeruns produce fat paychecks also changes things of a player's growth. It's because of this that I think it's more likely that Cozart will rebound better than Frazier, even though Frazier has more potential and Cozart's "rebound" will be minimal.
There's also a new Manager, who hopefully doesn't have the same feelings about Walks that Baker had. This should help the players reach their potential.
The biggest differences between our thinking is that I believe the ages of Frazier and Cozart, though both at that "prime" age right now, have not seen their best baseball. I also feel that way about Heisey.
Mesoraco is the biggest question mark because this is really a sophomore season for him, having not gotten that many plate appearances two seasons ago.
Cumulatively, I think the OPS of our RH bats will be at least 40 points higher than last season. That's a huge jump in one season, but they were so bad, it's not really.
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