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    Sickels 2014 rankings

    John Sickels' rankings are running a bit late this year because he suffered a concussion. He hasn't gotten to the Reds yet, but he's now kicking into high gear. You can follow it all here - http://www.minorleagueball.com/organ...-list-for-2014

    I think he's the best in the business, often showing a healthy skepticism of prospects whose flaws get glossed over elsewhere. He also downgrades for OB issues.

    He came out with his Red Sox list today. Anthony Ranaudo and Mookie Betts are the big risers. Bryce Brentz and Matt Barnes have taken the biggest tumbles.
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    Re: Sickels 2014 rankings

    He has started his Reds discussion for those interested.


    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/...ion-discussion

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    Re: Sickels 2014 rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by PepperJack View Post
    He has started his Reds discussion for those interested.


    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/...ion-discussion
    Doesn't sound concussed so far.

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    Re: Sickels 2014 rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Doesn't sound concussed so far.
    I think his autistic son accidentally knocked a heavy object off a shelf onto his noggin. He was out of action for a couple months with a nasty concussion.

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    Re: Sickels 2014 rankings

    He now has his preliminary prospect list (36) up. Not too many surprises. I was a little surprised to see Josh Smith in and Tim Crabbe out, as well as Gabriel Rosa in and Tanner Rahier out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT View Post
    He now has his preliminary prospect list (36) up. Not too many surprises. I was a little surprised to see Josh Smith in and Tim Crabbe out, as well as Gabriel Rosa in and Tanner Rahier out.
    Very surprising to see Rahier off the list. He's a top 20 guy in my mind.
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    Yeah, Rahier is one of the guys on my hopin' for a great season list topped by he, Corcino, YRod, Guillon and Langfield (for varying reasons), but he would make my top 40 list right now (possibly not even top 50).

    He has a lot of potential, but all these guys do. Even the last guy on every twenty-five man roster or AAA roster for that matter has/had potential. Nearly al were one of the very top guys on their High School, Legion and/or College team. Not giving up on Tanner by any stretch at all, but he'll have to have a serious showing this year to rank him as it now stands, IMO.

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    Re: Sickels 2014 rankings

    Sickels had this posted in the comments section:
    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/...-prospect-list
    Billy Hamilton did not have a great year for Louisville. He’s never had much power. He also lost some feel for the strike zone and his on-base skills were inadequate. That said, when he did get on base he continued to wreak havoc with his speed. Hamilton then came to Cincinnati in September and ran at will against major league batteries. If he gets on, he’ll always run if there’s an open base in front of him and will almost always be successful. The joke is that Hamilton’s speed rates a 90 on the 20-80 scale, but it may be more accurate to say it rates a 100. The former shortstop converted to center field last year. He’s a bit mistake-prone due to inexperience, but his speed covers for most route deficiencies and in the long run his glove will be a positive asset. Overall, the biggest question remains: Will he get on base enough to make the most out of his speed? Although his numbers at Louisville give pause, I think there’s been a tendency to “over-correct” on Hamilton and I think there’s more in there than he showed last year. At worst, I think he’s a faster Vince Coleman, which is saying something since Coleman was one of the fastest players in history. Normally I am fairly skeptical about players who rely solely on their speed, but Hamilton is different. This is not “normal excellent” speed we are talking about here. This is historic speed, and if his on-base skills are remotely adequate, he’ll be a devastating weapon. He should be thought of as a highly-promising, possibly war-winning, but immature weapons system that needs to have the bugs worked out. If I were the Reds, I’d let him play and let him work those bugs out. Grade B+.

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    Re: Sickels 2014 rankings

    2012 was strange but may be strong once its all said and done. Amaral, Hudson, Pigott and Peterson are other guys who haven't shown much. Travieso is still very dubious, imo, but could still turn it around. On the plus side Winker, Langfield, Moscot, SMB, Kivel, Klimesh, Routt, Ortiz, Stephens, Rachal and Vincej are still moving up. 5 of the top ten haven't done much, though, and Felt is an exceptional hardship case.
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    Re: Sickels 2014 rankings

    Nice in-depth look at Tanner Rahier's hitting mechanics.

    http://redlegsbaseball.blogspot.com/...er-rahier.html
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    Re: Sickels 2014 rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    Nice in-depth look at Tanner Rahier's hitting mechanics.

    http://redlegsbaseball.blogspot.com/...er-rahier.html
    Old information with older mechanics.

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    Re: Sickels 2014 rankings

    Preliminary grades now posted:

    one A
    three B+
    four B-
    seven C+
    twenty C

    Not hard to speculate on the top grades. The B- and C+ will be interesting. All together, a little better than I was expecting.

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    Re: Sickels 2014 rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT View Post
    Preliminary grades now posted:

    one A
    three B+
    four B-
    seven C+
    twenty C

    Not hard to speculate on the top grades. The B- and C+ will be interesting. All together, a little better than I was expecting.
    I'm assuming Stephenson is the A and Hamilton, Winker and Ervin are the B+ guys. I'm curious about the B-/C+ group, because I have a ton of trouble sorting out between 5 and 15.
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    Re: Sickels 2014 rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    I'm assuming Stephenson is the A and Hamilton, Winker and Ervin are the B+ guys. I'm curious about the B-/C+ group, because I have a ton of trouble sorting out between 5 and 15.
    Holmberg's a safe bet for B-. Sickels had him as a B last year. Corcino had been a B+, so it will be interesting to see how far he drops. Travieso had been a B-, but Sickels likes performance so I'd expect a drop there. Moscot had been a C+ and could bounce up. SMB also had been C+ and possibly could be in for a bump (at the very least he should maintain where he was).
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    Re: Sickels 2014 rankings

    Preliminary Grade Breakdown is up
    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/...rade-breakdown

    35 players
    One Grade A
    Three Grade B+
    Zero Grade B
    Four Grade B-
    Seven Grade C+
    20 Grade C

    There is some play there but it does strike me as a top-heavy system. Feel free to speculate on the grades of course. That's the point of this!
    Edit; ooops missed this page of the thread. I assume the Grade A is Corky or Stephenson. We know BHam is b+ based on sickels comment to one of the postings.
    Last edited by klw; 01-21-2014 at 12:52 PM.

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