I don't get any of this. Why would a team, small market or not, even think of trading a guy under 30 who has thrown two no-hitters? Find a way to extend him, or move the franchise...
I don't get any of this. Why would a team, small market or not, even think of trading a guy under 30 who has thrown two no-hitters? Find a way to extend him, or move the franchise...
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Red in Chicago (01-07-2014),Wishbone C (01-08-2014)
Easy to say, but he has to be open to an extension before you can "Extend Him." I've said for over a year now that Homer's signing nothing before he tests the market. I really hope that Walt is able to strike a deal, but problem is, if it were possible it would have already happened. Would love nothing more than for Walt to prove me wrong. If not though, the Reds have to listen to offers.
if you're going to sign votto, bruce and phillips to multi year big time contracts, you need to find a way to do the same for bailey and latos…otherwise, what's the point...
mdccclxix (01-07-2014),Wishbone C (01-08-2014)
My worry about losing Bailey is who replaces him?
Cueto, Latos, Leake, Cingrani and ?
Not drafting Wacha hurt the Reds right now, we'd be able to trade Bailey or Leake in order to improve our 2014 roster. That being said, I would honestly try and extend Homer, but if not take the pick after the season. The trade deadline is another option, the Reds could receive a huge package in return.
Trading Bailey now weakens our pitching staff and that is our strength, we need the rotation to be a our workhorse in order to stay competitive in the division. I think 2014 is going to be a monster season for Bailey.
The only other remaining option is to package Bailey and Phillips in a trade and try and receive a young prospect filled package in return and start a kind of rebuild process while still contending in 2014. We would shed near 60 M in payroll and would be getting rid of Ludwick's contract after 14'.
Oh man, two Michael Wacha posts in one day.
If only we had drafted Mike Trout in 2009. Or Craig Kimbrel in 2008. Or Giancarlo Stanton in 2007.
Give. It. A. Rest.
We get it. The Reds made the absolute worst mistake in the history of the entire world by not drafting Michael Wacha. Now let it go.
Last edited by dougdirt; 01-07-2014 at 08:54 PM. Reason: I can't spell ONE
I think I would almost cringe if the Reds gave Bailey anything over 15 a year before securing Latos. The way things are developing the Reds can afford to let Bailey walk, replace him with Stephenson in 2015, then work on extending two of Leake, Latos or Cueto while counting on a FA or another minor leaguer to fill in as well. If Cueto has hit a wall in 2014 that will make Bailey more valuable to these plans.
If I want the Reds to extend anyone, I want them to extend Leake. Not because he's the best, but because he's the best value.
He's a low impact tosser that relies on location and movement more than velocity. He's less likely to breakdown, and has he loses velocity, he won't lose much in production. He also won't cost near as much as Latos or Ceuto to sing long term. Both Latos and Ceuto are high impact pitchers, who give it their all with every pitch. Those guys worry me long term. We are already seeing this with Cueto.
Hoping to change my username to 75769024
Bailey is a proven stud and is about to get paid, big time. Might as well start the rebuilding process now because this team is not going to be competitive.
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