I would seriously doubt that Boyd goes in the 3rd or 4th round. I don't know if a team is going to take a chance on him that early unless they think its a real possibility that he will start.Originally Posted by BungleBengals
I would seriously doubt that Boyd goes in the 3rd or 4th round. I don't know if a team is going to take a chance on him that early unless they think its a real possibility that he will start.
I mean you're completely twisting my words. I said he's a decent prospect and I've said I don't give a rat's hoot about the NFL. But racking up yards against an awful Ohio State defense by throwing screen passes to Sammy Watkins while still managing to throw two interceptions just doesn't impress me...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...rrest/2518037/
For me it's two words. Arm. Strength.
There are certain throws in the nfl a QB has to make regardless of whether he can go all Fran on a pass rush.
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A lot of actual football people are starting to say that Manziel's play will translate. Here in Jax there's a big section of the fanbase clamoring for him, and called him Johnny Jaguar.
I'd be very surprised on May 8th if one of 4 people, are not holding up a Jags jersey: Clowney, Bridgewater, Manziel or Bortles.
I haven't seen Metteneberger listed as a late round flyer yet here but many places do.
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Right.
At the same time, it can be overblown. The way I look at it is, there's a certain baseline of arm strength a QB needs or else he just can't play in the NFL. The windows are pretty small and he has to be able to get the ball there in time. But once that baseline is met, other things become more important to success: accuracy, quick release, the ability to throw accurately from weird arm slots and off the back foot because teams WILL get pressure.
And above all, it's the stuff that happens above the neck -- call it vision, anticipation or what have you, but it's just the ability to understand what's happening in front of you and get the right answer in real time. Coaching helps but some guys have it and some don't.
To me, Manziel is way above average on all the other stuff I mentioned. So it's a matter of whether his arm is good enough. I think it'll be average at best, but acceptable, especially in certain systems. Could be wrong.
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Of those four, I'd go with Bortles.
You're right. That's my mistake. But in this case Manziel was actually breaking up a potential fight. Then the guy started to fight him. Not using good judgment with the people he was hanging out with, but he wasn't looking for trouble either.
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...back-conundrum
Manziel improved his arm strength from his freshman year. Check out the article above. Manziel actually throws more deep passes than the other top college QBs in the this year's draft class, and he's more accurate. Even when you only account for passes when he stayed in the pocket, his downfield accuracy is awesome. And he's also facing significantly better defenses than Bortles, Bridgewater, or Carr.
Manziel is a very good QB without his running ability. Incredibly accurate, and enough arm strength to make it in the pros. Watch this throw. 50 yard in the air and he didn't even step into it. (I don't know how to embed videos, so if anybody knows how, I would appreciate if you could let me know. Thanks).
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10225139
So that was his story. And I am sure the fake IDs were so he could vote too huh? He was running with a guy that was using racial slurs in a fight. ******bags usually run with ******bags.
Because Manziel is the only player in this draft class with a fake ID who drinks underage... I'm not saying it's not an issue, but I think that this case is probably pretty low on the list of concerns for NFL teams. They know that pretty much every player they are looking at drank and partied in college.
People talk about his off-field "issues", but they are only issues if they affect the team. His teammates and coaches love him.
I dont buy the "everybody does it" stuff. I never had one. i am in my 40s and never been arrested. And what coaches or team mates will come out and say they dont like him?
Yeah, you might have a point with the "everybody does it" if he played another position, but that argument holds a lot less water for a QB...
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