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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    Larry thinks Ricky is looking mighty presidential.
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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    For single seasons, From 1916 to 2013, Batting 1st (within Batting Order Positions), (requiring PA≥550), sorted by greatest On-Base Plus Slugging for this split


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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    Rickey said some silly things as a player but he really sounds intelligent in the above quotes. Great great player.
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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    Raisor thinks Rickey might be a Phoenix.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    Meet the new OBP attitude coach.

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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    A few things. Rickey helped his own OBP chances with his stance. He crouched considerably...similar to Pete, slightly different in form, but the size of their zones were very similar. That plus Rickey's ability to hit for average are what separated him from other leadoff hitters IMO. Sure, the power was a great bonus...but few leadoff men in today's game have the ability to draw walks (via a good eye, patience and a stance-edge) and still hit for a .300+ average.

    A speedster like Billy Hamilton...I really wish someone had taught him a crouched stance early on. Any edge he can get to reach base is a plus for him. Let's all hope he can come close to the success of the other Billy Hamilton. Look at those BA's and OBP's. With our Billy's speed...yikes! :O)

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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    Man, was he a treat to watch play. He seemed like one of the most locked-in, intense players ever, to me a real testimony to what kind of concentration it takes to make numbers like that.

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    Only one guy in the top 25 from 2013.
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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    So it isn't the players fault, but the managers who are batting the wrong guys leadoff?

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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    I was referring to the fact that it was Choo, who is no longer a Red, the only guy in the majors in 2013 to be in that neighborhood.
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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    So we should pump Billy Hamilton full of steroids? I mean, if we want him to be more like Rickey...
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    So we should pump Billy Hamilton full of steroids? I mean, if we want him to be more like Rickey...
    You saying Henderson juiced?
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    Quote Originally Posted by CySeymour View Post
    You saying Henderson juiced?
    Yes.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Yes.
    Even as far back as 1980? You need some better proof that just assuming.

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    Re: Rickey Henderson on approach of current leadoff hitters

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    Even as far back as 1980? You need some better proof that just assuming.
    He played on the A's during the Canseco/McGwire era. And he definitely got a lot bigger during that period. Plus, many players have said that there's a player already in the HOF who they know is a steroid user. It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out whom they are talking about.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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