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    Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    From his morning column:

    "Full judgment shouldnt be rendered until Opening Day. Unwise to assume he doesnt have a hat, and a rabbit. Offseason body language not good. Nice little moves that donít scare anybody. Is Walt on the hot seat? Should he be?

    Iíve heard the name Matt Kemp in passing. FWIW."


    http://cincinnati.com/blogs/daughert...ng-line-115-4/


    He does have sources inside the Reds. He was the first to report on Phillips. Who knows what the discussions were, but it's interesting that they have at least talked about Kemp considering how much money he is due.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    Didn't he also say Brandon Phillips was "as good as traded?"

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    He may have, I'm not sure. But, I do believe the Reds were actively looking to move Phillips. Things just didn't materialize. I think if Phillips didn't have the Yankees on his no trade list he'd already be in pinstripes.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    Kemp is a guy I've been singing about since October. He would make a very interesting, if not great, target IMO. Much better than the status quo, at least we'd be daring to be great.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Kemp is a guy I've been singing about since October. He would make a very interesting, if not great, target IMO. Much better than the status quo, at least we'd be daring to be great.
    I just don't see how we could pay almost half of our payroll to 2 guys, 1 of whom has been injury plagued, and expect to compete long term.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by bigredmechanism View Post
    I just don't see how we could pay almost half of our payroll to 2 guys, 1 of whom has been injury plagued, and expect to compete long term.
    I am thinking the same thing. He's signed through 2019, so unless the Dodgers pick up quite a bit of his contract, I just don't see how Cincy could swing it.
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    I imagine if one hung around the Reds front office this offseason, one would hear quite a few names being discussed. A smart team discusses every possible option to make the team better. I would hope Kemp's name was discussed.
    Last edited by 757690; 01-15-2014 at 12:01 PM.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by CySeymour View Post
    I am thinking the same thing. He's signed through 2019, so unless the Dodgers pick up quite a bit of his contract, I just don't see how Cincy could swing it.
    Of course the Dodgers would have to take on a huge amount of Kemp's contract- at least half- in order for anything to get done. Plus I'd imGine the trade would involve some kind of combo of Phillips, Ludwick, Broxton, Bailey or Chapman- of course not all of them by any stretch, but the Reds would be sending back some high priced names.

    I've always said Phillips and Broxton would make a lot of sense if LA would pay half of the difference in money.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    I imagine if one hung ariund the Reds front office this offseason, one would hear quite a few names being discussed. A smart team discusses every possible option to make the team better. I would hope Kemp's name was discussed.
    I he were healthy and all things were equal, Kemp would be among a half dozen position names that would spring to mind if I could pick any one opposing player to insert into the Reds lineup.

    Things (salary) aren't all equal though and his health has to be a major concern. IF it were to happen, the Dodgers would need to pay at least a quarter of what is owed him and I would expect Phillips to be included and possibly Bailey or Chapman. If Walt is smart, he would also insist that both Ludwick and Broxton's contracts be assumed as well. I'd think a B prospect or two or surplus vet would head the Reds way too.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by bigredmechanism View Post
    I just don't see how we could pay almost half of our payroll to 2 guys, 1 of whom has been injury plagued, and expect to compete long term.
    I agree...but then again the LA pocketbooks are reported to be VERY deep...I'd expect them to pony up quite a few bucks to offset any Kemp deal.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    This offseason has been miserable. Someone knock me out until April.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    So Matt Kemp is going to be our next GM?
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    So Matt Kemp is going to be our next GM?
    Shawn Kemp, actually. We couldn't afford Matt after all.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    Wonder if they could do a Kemp deal where the Dodgers pay him while he's on the DL and the Reds pay his salary while he's on the active roster. (or maybe the Dodgers reimburse the Reds a pro-rated amount at the end of every year or something?)
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds have talked about Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    I imagine if one hung around the Reds front office this offseason, one would hear quite a few names being discussed. A smart team discusses every possible option to make the team better. I would hope Kemp's name was discussed.
    Exactly. I imagine you work in an office with dozens of people whose primary job is to make the Reds better. Don't you think you'd pretty have discussed every player in the league at some point? Obviously Fay wouldn't say anything it were just "That Matt Kemp guy is pretty good", but this seems like an easy way to fill a slow news day more than anything else.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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