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  • Satisfied with the current state of the Reds

    9 8.74%
  • Moderately satisfied

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  • Neutral

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    38 36.89%
  • Dissatisfied with the current state of the Reds

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Thread: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Those players were 2008-2010 draft picks. Where are the other players? Major League success has masked player acquisition and development failures on the farm.
    To be fair, 2011 has produced a member of the rotation and the team's top prospect. The 2013 first rounder looks like a building block and the sandwich, 2nd, and 4th rounders look like they could become mainstays - several others could pan out as well. 2012 has yielded a fast moving teen-ager who hits everything and may be ready for AA already. The 4th rounder is in the AA rotation and may be ready for a big league look at some point this season. The first and 3rd rounders may still have a chance and the 8th, 10th and 17th rounders may be players. It's awfully soon to have major league contributions from those drafts.

    The problem is in adding players from outside. Standing pat at the deadline and passing on a guy like Marlon Byrd. Leaving catcher and CF to guys who have failed instead of earning the job and addressing the problem with bit players instead of solid contributors.
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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

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    I'd be willing to bet they haven't picked a single guy saying "He'll be a great utility player!"
    Maybe they should've. Might not have picked'em.

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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    Moderately Satisfied.

    I think they are better than what a lot of people are expecting. Losing Choo doesn't make us go from a 90 win team to a .500 team. We had an unlucky year in a lot of ways and we still won 90 games.

    Our pitching staff is as good as any and that alone makes us division contenders. We were severely affected by injuries to this staff last year and they were still excellent.

    If Hamilton isn't a dumpster fire, and at least one of : {Frazier, Cozart, Mes, Ludwick} has a good year offensively, we'll be totally fine.
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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by bigredmechanism View Post
    Moderately Satisfied.

    I think they are better than what a lot of people are expecting. Losing Choo doesn't make us go from a 90 win team to a .500 team. We had an unlucky year in a lot of ways and we still won 90 games.

    Our pitching staff is as good as any and that alone makes us division contenders. We were severely affected by injuries to this staff last year and they were still excellent.

    If Hamilton isn't a dumpster fire, and at least one of : {Frazier, Cozart, Mes, Ludwick} has a good year offensively, we'll be totally fine.
    "Fine" gets stale after 4-5 years.

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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    Neutral. I don't know that the money was going to be there to make anything other than marginal improvements, and you can't count on trades being made.

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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    According to the poll I'm with the majority. Not real excited or optimistic about 2014.
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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    Moderately dissastified. I was hoping some offense would be added, and I know they tried, but as we watch other teams do this and we stand pat, it gives me the feeling that the Reds either value what they have more than anyone else or other teams don't value our players as much as we do. It's the small market blues I guess.
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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    I'm neutral, but not distressed. I still think it's a good team. Too much pitching not to be a good team. They need to bring in an OF bat to move me into the moderately satisfied ledger (and I'd be wait-and-see until we get into ST if Grady Sizemore is that bat).
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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    Love the starting pitching, concerned about the offense. I think they're a wildcard team at best as currently constructed, but I suspect things will look different by Opening Day.
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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    One issue that is not given enough ink is injuries.

    This could make a huge difference this season.

    Ludwick, Cueto, Cingrani, Marshall, and Broxton all had meaningful injuries last year.

    I don't think we can assume they will all be back to full strength. On the other hand, a more lucky season in terms of health would be a big boost.

    Cueto, in particular, is absolutely key in my view.
    Last edited by Kc61; 01-20-2014 at 07:56 PM.

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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    It's tough. I voted moderately dissatisfied, but now that I think more about it, I'm moderately dissatisfied in the offseason. Not necessarily the state of the team. I'm actually probably moderately satisfied when looking at the big picture.

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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    One issue that is not given enough ink is injuries.

    This could make a huge difference this season.

    Ludwick, Cueto, Cingrani, Marshall, and Broxton all had meaningful injuries last year.

    I don't think we can assume they will all be back to full strength. On the other hand, a more lucky season in terms of healthy good be a big boost.

    Cueto, in particular, is absolutely key in my view.
    As the team stands I agree 100%. Health makes or breaks this team.
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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    Attrition affects every team, attrition of health, luck, attitude, dependence on super stars.

    Depth is the key, the Reds have schooled the fan base on depth of position players, mostly outfielders, for 60 years now, there's more holes in the 8 slots aside from the staff when you build a team, it really does test all front offices. But no depth in the staff, no depth in the ML for pitchers and your house will burn nightly. It's obvious the FO thinks pitching depth first and everything else after that (aside from Votto) it's hard as a Reds fan to wring your hands over offense, it's not a familiar habit.

    Paradigms are hell.

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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    Focusing on pitching depth first is actually a smart way to go. They are the single player with the most impact on the game for either team, really. A bad offensive team with an amazing rotation will still win more games than a team with bad pitching and a good offence (IMO).

    Building through the rotation/bullpen is the way to go. The Reds have that right. Though I don't think it means they can neglect the other positions.

    I'm optimistic about this season (really excited to see what BHam can do), but I still feel like another move would be preferable.
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    Re: Your opinion of the Reds- January 2014

    The worst part of the offseason is that I have been wanting a moderately big, to big trade so I could post

    "Its going down, Walt is yelling "Timber"."

    Lame I know.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.


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